Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ijun


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 23:17, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Ijun

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Per non-notable. According to this page, the cult has only 1000 followers. Oda Mari (talk) 17:41, 5 April 2009 (UTC) 
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions.  —Oda Mari (talk) 17:42, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:Notability. Tim  meh  !  18:08, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails to meet notability requirements. --Mantokun (talk) 15:40, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. Should we judge a religion based on the fact that there are only 1000 members?  I think not.  There are many notable, cults, sects, etc. that have small membership.  What we are supposed to use is the general notability guideline: is there significant coverage in multiple reliable sources?  Indeed, we see at least two scholars have devoted entire journal articles solely to Ijun (listed in the article, a couple more on Google Scholar).  On Google Books, I found some brief mentions, which despite their brevity makes crucial points: "Ijun is the only religion developed by Okinawans primarily for Okinawans" (first hit, Japanese Journal of Religious Studies) and "There is an important sect in Okinawa called Ijun which draws on Okinawan folk religious practices."(4th hit, Shinto, a short history).  Obviously religious scholars find Ijun worthy of writing about.  The mention in "Shinto, a short history" is interesting in that you might not expect an obscure cult to be mentioned in a brief history.   With academic topics like this we can't expect there to be a mass of coverage, but that's certainly not a reason to delete.  Indeed, I wonder if there would be more mentions if I were to search a library containing a good collection of material on Okinawan religion.  This isn't the type of topic that is prevalent on the Internet.   This is exactly the kind of coverage we should be expanding on Wikipedia, not deleting because it's not popular like the latest manga or videogame.  --C S (talk) 15:15, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Can you provide the links you mention above as Google orders results differently for almost everyone. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 18:55, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Pastor Theo (talk) 01:16, 10 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep. This religion may be small but it seems to have received some scholarly attention. See this article, for example. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 01:50, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Appears to be notable; per Metropolitan.  —  Jake   Wartenberg  02:23, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep I think that any religion is notable, even if it has few members.Homebum (talk) 05:21, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. Reliable third party coverage illustrated by Metropolitan. Mostlyharmless (talk) 05:33, 10 April 2009 (UTC)


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