Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ikstarr


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Missvain (talk) 03:46, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Ikstarr

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Non-notable singer and music producer. The article does not indicate that any of the musical notability criteria are satisfied. The article also does not indicate that general notability is satisfied.

References 1, 4, and 5 are interviews, and so are not secondary coverage. References 2 and 3 are not about the subject but about an ancestor.

If this article were submitted at AFC, it would be declined. It was submitted at AFC, and was declined. The author then insulted the reviewers in edit summaries, but this is a content forum. Creating two copies, one in article space and one in draft space, is sometimes done to game the system to prevent draftification. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:52, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

*Keep As per Notability guidelines. The subject has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, hence the subject is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article.

Significant coverage in this instance includes verified coverage from: The Guardian Newspaper ThisDay Newspaper The Nation Newspaper The Tribune Newspaper among others. "Reliable" means that sources have editorial integrity and hence allow for verifiable evaluation of notability, per the reliable source guideline. These newspapers appear to be reputable, national daily newspapers and on closer inspection are the biggest circulating and authoritative publications in Africa with a combined reach over 200 million people. This is significant coverage. Notability is based on the existence of suitable sources, not on the state of sourcing in an article. One of the independent sources refer to the subject creating a new genre of music. Regardless, notability in this instance is established on the grounds of the existence of suitable sources as above.

The sources address the subject directly and in detail, so that no original research is needed to extract further content.

Furthermore, the subject has verifiably had their work broadcast nationally as per The Guardian Newspaper. The subject has over ten thousand monthly listeners on Spotify. The references are “Independent of the subject" and excludes works produced by the article's subject or someone affiliated with it.

Harmonyfair69 (talk) 01:58, 24 November 2020 (UTC) Blocked.  scope_creep Talk  08:17, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

As per wiki criteria for musicians and ensembles the subject as had: Moniworld (talk) 15:13, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep
 * Multiple non-trivial published works(newspaper articles) appearing in sources that are reliable. Notably, The Guardian newspaper, ThisDay Newspapers, Tribune Newspaper and The Nation. These are non-trivial and review the subjects work. They don't appear restricted to release info and there was no mere mention of performance dates or track listing.
 * The subject of the article [as per s.7 of criteria for musicians] also appears to be a prominent representative of a niche, but notable musical style in Nigeria. Reputable sources objectively referred to it as a new musical genre. This directly feeds into s.3  and s.4 of wiki criteria for composers and lyricist.
 * There are objective, reliable sources namely: The Guardian Newspaper among others citing that the object has influence, technique and repertory for a particular music genre.
 * [As per s.11 of wiki criteria for musicians] the subject’s work has been verifiably cited as achieving National Radio and television network airplay in Nigeria
 * Notability is not subjective, but rather is objective based on reputable independent references or sources, especially for a musician or composer.
 * Therefore, based on the adherence to the criteria for musical notability as stipulated by Wikipedia guidelines as fulfilled above, the subject is newish but objectively and reasonably passes the musical Notability criterion


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:52, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:52, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Nigeria-related deletion discussions. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:52, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:52, 23 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep Seems rather local, but important. Oaktree b (talk) 01:57, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Weak delete, might be a case of TOOSOON. This is supposed to be a biography article and the current sources are simply not reliable enough. Also no chart placings or awards (NMUSIC not met) - Xclusivzik (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 14:46, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete it fails WP:MUSICBIO  evidence of Notability not  found Samat lib (talk) 22:06, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

*Keep a simple google search shows subject is notable. References from newspapers appear sufficient to me. (Chapelle69 (talk) 12:31, 28 November 2020 (UTC)) Blocked. -Xclusivzik (talk) 12:36, 30 November 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 02:14, 2 December 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 01:27, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Em-mustapha 04:27, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Per nom. GhostDestroyer100 (talk) 08:43, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
 * KeepPer nom. (～～～～).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.205.240.69 (talk) 22:48, 15 December 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.