Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Imad A. Abulaban


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. -- Cirt (talk) 00:05, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Imad A. Abulaban

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None of the sources in the article actually has any coverage of the subject, and I have been unable to find any other sources that do. Phil Bridger (talk) 18:55, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete as prod-er, fails WP:N -- John of Reading (talk) 19:03, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Middle East-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:54, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
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 * Comment: The following is copied from my talk page in case other editors wish to comment or disagree:

Dear John,

as per your conversation of notability, find hereunder the link where his name is mentioned in all the projects and links.

some are press releases, some are official like DIFC, some are joint ventures and some are websites. these links are not helpfull to have notability on Imad Abulaban?


 * 2.^ "CapitalStone Holding at DIFC"http://www.difc.ae/apps/registers/DifcRegistrySearch/result.php?companyId=1009
 * 5.^ "Choueifat". http://shweifat.tripod.com/listingname.htm
 * 8.^ "Imad at Polystar". http://www.polystarcorp.com/AboutUs/AboutUs.htm
 * 9.^ "PolyStar"http://www.polystarcorp.com/ContactUs/ContactUs.htm
 * 10.^ "PolyStar". http://archive.arabnews.com/?page=6&section=0&article=45366&d=21&m=5&y=2004
 * 14.^ "City Fanar". http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-118104450.html
 * 15.^ "PolyStar & Fanar"http://www.zawya.com/story.cfm/sidZAWYA20040522104718/Saudi%20Arabia%3A%20Rikaz%20Appoints%20PolyStar%20to%20Manage%20City%20Fanar%20Project
 * 16.^ "CapitalStone JV Zawya" http://www.zawya.com/story.cfm/sidZAWYA20100930124434
 * 17.^ "CapitalStone at EWI"http://www.zawya.com/story.cfm/sidZAWYA20101017061608
 * 19.^ "McGovern+Moriarty & CapitalStone JV"http://www.ameinfo.com/243550.html

(Samour72 (talk) 07:30, 20 October 2010 (UTC))


 * I've had another look at these links. I don't think any of them help to establish his notability:
 * 2 is merely a directory entry. I assume that this web site lists a very large number of companies, big and small
 * 5 merely confirms that he went to a particular college. (I went to college too, but that doesn't make me notable)
 * 8 is not an independent source
 * 9 is not an independent source
 * 10 looks as it derives from a press release. It merely quotes something said by IA.
 * 14 is mostly about the company, not the person. The part that I can see does not mention IA.
 * 15 looks like the same content as 10 - though the site only showed me the text for a few seconds because I'm not prepared to register
 * 16 is a press release
 * 17 is a press release
 * 19 is a press release

-- John of Reading (talk) 07:53, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

(Samour72 (talk) here are a couple of references will these help?
 * http://www.kabuljebain.com/books/stories/Stories_C5.pdf
 * http://dwc.hct.ac.ae/dwcweb/images/desert_dawn/DesertDawn18.1-June2008.pdf
 * www.mygri.com/GRI2010MenaBrochure.pdf (Samour72 (talk) 12:20, 20 October 2010 (UTC))


 * These documents mention Imad Abulaban but they are not about him. -- John of Reading (talk) 13:13, 20 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Comment: The following is copied from my talk page:

Hi John, After reviewing your notes, i would like to expalin one thing that maybe you didn't consider, which is Imad Abulaban is the owner, cofounder, President and CEO of Polystar, Projacs and CapitalStone. so any conversation that talks about the projects or the companies mentioned above would be giving natability for Imad. is it true or not? as for the links mentioned above also, we would like to aknowldge you the following:
 * 2 DIFC (Dubai International Financial Center) is ranked 7th in the World, when you are registered with them you have to be eligible and have credibility to be registered with them, as well as they are on wikipedia too.
 * 5 National Shcool of Choueifat (SABIS) is No 1 school in Lebanon and one of the best in the region, if you look it up they have branches gloabaly now. As well as Imad is cofounder of the Alumini. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_School_of_Choueifat

http://www.sabis.net/
 * 8(9) as website are not notable can it be replaced with press releases, Zawya, Ameifo, Albawaba, highbeam, arabnews are all known in the region, as they are not in the states but you have to look and consider our region which is the Gulf region too.
 * 10 PolyStar is committed to developing strategies for managing risks and selecting the appropriate method of financing to ensure the maximum return on investment for City Fanar,” said Imad Abulaban, CEO and president, PolyStar Incorporated. “We bring with us our experience of managing complex projects, including the ability to control budgets, schedules, design and construction,” he said.

thats more than 40 words said by Imad Abulaban.how come it dosn't quote what IA said.
 * 14 Polystar is owned by Imad Abulaban, so this is notability on the comapnies preformance which is reflecting on his preformance.
 * 16 (17,19) as per point above *8(9) as well as Mcgovern+Moriarty is owned by CapitalStone by 1/3, so it is owned partialy by Imad Abulaban, while McGover+Moriairty are one of the big corportation in development where they built iconic developments to name few CANARY WHARF in London, EURO DISNEY in Paris as well as the PETRONAS TOWERS in Kuala Lumpur, Atlantic Wharf, Museum of Fine Arts ~ Boston, MA, Harvard Riverside Dormitory, Metro Lofts, •	ING ~ Windsor, CT, Manchester Place ~ Manchester, NH, •	Lorien Hotel & Spa and so many more. here is a link for their website. http://www.jm-a.com/

and last but not lease Bloomberg is well known internationaly, here is a press release about McGovern+Moriarty and CapitalStone (again is owned by Imad Abulaban) http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=4393659

if there is a way to contact u over the phone as well that would be helpfull to ask for. (Samour72 (talk) 08:01, 21 October 2010 (UTC))


 * I'm sorry, I'm getting stressed by this. I'm going to copy your comments to Articles for deletion/Imad A. Abulaban so that other editors can comment. In particular, they will be read by whichever experienced admin reviews the deletion discussion, sometime on the 26th/27th October. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:26, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:03, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Delete. The articles lists sources, but not the reliable, non-trivial sources required by the WP:RS and WP:N policies. And using Wikipedia as a source for an article, as this article has done twice, is always a bad sign. I've heard the site isn't very reliable. ;) --hkr Laozi speak  07:34, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. Lack of reliable, independent sources that actually refer to the subject of the article.-- K orr u ski Talk 13:32, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.