Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Immunity Project (2nd nomination)


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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 19:43, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

Immunity Project
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Originally kept in a 2014 AfD, but I think its worth seeing what the current consensus is on this non-profit. The claim to fame is being one of the first Y-Combinator non-profits. Unfortunately, the sourcing on it is significantly below what we currently expect of organizations under WP:ORG. The sourcing available is press release churn, non-reliable industry publications, and primary source interviews. In terms of revenue: $816,000 USD is pretty low as this type of organization goes. While that isn't a make or break on notability, it does suggest that this isn't at the level where we are missing something. TonyBallioni (talk) 18:57, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 19:35, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
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 * Delete We Wikipedians should be ashamed of this article. On the day the first version was published, it said the Immunity Project was in Phase 1 Clinical Trials. If that were so, healthy human subjects were already getting an experimental HIV vaccine.  That should have strained credulity.  Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Nevertheless, the article survived AfD (shame!). A month later, an edit exposed the scientific weakness of the claims. By then the article was entrenched.


 * Immunity Project said it intended to make a free HIV vaccine. To take a vaccine through clinical trials would probably cost a billion dollars. Immunity Project claimed to be a non-profit.  They weren't and aren't. Any editor can confirm that. The IRS has no paperwork.  They relied on another AIDS advocacy organization to handle the money and make annual filings -- for a one percent cut. That's where the $800K number came from, the total revenue including the other charity's traditional income stream. The cofounder and chief promoter of this venture has moved on to other things.  The Immunity Project website hasn't been updated in a year.  Let this be a lesson to all of us to be skeptical when we see a new article about a new organization ... even a charity. Rhadow (talk) 20:17, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
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 * Delete Per nom.--SamHolt6 (talk) 01:25, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
 * delete was a bit on the fence on this. The Nature News article has really substantial discussion on this, but there is nothing else of that quality. The rest is, as the nom says, PR churn and reaction to the churn.  Even now. It is also really terrible that the article says that they are in Phase I trials. Per their website they are still pre-clinical. Jytdog (talk) 04:02, 17 September 2017 (UTC)


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