Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Impending Doom (German band)


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The result was   keep. Stifle (talk) 11:16, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Impending Doom (German band)

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Fails WP:BAND Canniba  loki  00:42, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete - Article fails criterion A7. -- Nomader (Talk) 00:58, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete -- struck speedy vote. Thought about it some more and though it does not show enough for WP:BAND, it does attempt to indicate why the subject is important. My mistake. -- Nomader (Talk) 01:42, 9 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 13:52, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 13:53, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep. They have released |DOOM&sql=11:09fexqrdldae~T2 two albums on Napalm Records, a label with a decent roster, which per WP:BAND makes the band notable. I notice that allmusic has them mixed up with the US band Impending Doom, and that band also makes it very hard to search for significant coverage. I don't find anything, in fact, but since they split up in 2001 web news are biased against them. A weak opinion to keep from me, which only relies on the criteria in WP:BAND, not on WP:NOTE. -- Amalthea 16:43, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:26, 14 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete: insufficient notability per WP:BAND. JamesBurns (talk) 00:54, 14 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep, passes WP:MUSIC, multiple albums from a notable label.   Esradekan Gibb    "Talk" 01:28, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak keep Band existed for a while and is in that other encyclopedia. I think it makes our encyclopedia more complete to include them. ChildofMidnight (talk) 07:14, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Passed the fifth criterion of WP:MUSIC. Undead Warrior (talk) 07:18, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - Meets WP:MUSIC. &mdash; neuro(talk) 08:59, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Where does the satisfying criterea 5 come from? The article says the bands albums were released by Voice of Life Records which is supported by the supplied reference (which is not a reliable source). I see nothing that makes them an important indie label. I also can't see where the suggestion of two albums on Napalm Records comes from. Duffbeerforme (talk) 11:53, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
 * See the allmusic link in my comment above the relisting. I just removed the the part from the article where it said that they were signed with Voice of Life throughout their career, that is almost certainly wrong. Even the metal-archives.com site (not a RS) does not confirm that, and I believe this is where most of the information in the article came from. They BTW give Perverted Taste as the record label that produced Caedes Sacrilegae and Signum Of Hate, which makes me a bit uneasy since I can't find a reliable source confirming the allmusic information. One might be wrong, or it might have been released on both labels. This article has an extreme WP:VERIFIABILITY problem. -- Amalthea 16:23, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
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 * Comment Amazon.com credits the band's first two albums with Perverted Taste while Amazon.de credits the same two albums with Napalm Records: links here, here, here and here. I suspect that Napalm was simply the distributor for the two albums in Europe and that they were never officially signed to the roster. Unlike Allmusic, Rockdetector has a biography for the band here and while it mentions the group signing onto Perverted Taste and then Cudgel Agency for their third album, there is no mention at all about Napalm Records. That's the sort of detail that Rockdetector tend to note in providing biographies for bands and I find it hard to believe that the website has somehow neglected to mention the band signing onto the more notable and bigger Napalm Record when it mentions them signing onto two little-known underground record labels. --Bardin (talk) 10:17, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmm, since amazon.com lists them as imported albums I'd rather suspect the opposite, that Napalm Records is in fact the producing label, and Perverted Taste the overseas distributor. -- Amalthea 12:28, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * If Perverted Taste is an "overseas distributor", then Amazon would not list it as an import. That's the whole idea of the import label: there's no distributor in the USA so Amazon has to directly import it from elsewhere. Perverted Taste is a German record label while Napalm Records is an Austrian label. Whichever one Amazon gets it from, it would be imported. There's no mention anywhere on the Napalm Records website of Impending Doom. Searching for the same band on Perverted Taste reveals several results, including the CDs and a shirt. There's no evidence whatsoever that the band was ever signed to Napalm Records and jumping to that conclusion based on what we've got here is quite a stretch. --Bardin (talk) 19:00, 18 December 2008 (UTC)


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