Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Imram bin Mohamed


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The result was Keep. Davewild (talk) 19:05, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Imram bin Mohamed

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Very weak notability. Chairman of the Association of Muslim Professionals, MP (I think), and Justice of the Peace in Singapore. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 13:58, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment. If he was an MP then he is notable under WP:BIO: "Politicians who have held international, national or statewide/provincewide office, and members and former members of a national, state or provincial legislature.". I couldn't find a reference to confirm that he was. Please note that the Association of Muslim Professionals web site refers to him as Imram Mohamed, not Imram bin Mohamed, so in looking for references both forms should be used. Phil Bridger (talk)


 * Delete If you read the article, and related sights on google, you can see he was not elected, so fails WP:BIO. Its a special category, similar in concept to the constituency list in the UK, for reserve MP's. scope_creep (talk) 14:32, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment. I don't see the word elected in the sentence I quoted from WP:BIO. The only place where election comes into the guideline is in relation to unelected candidates. Unfortunately not all countries are perfect democracies, but that doesn't make members of their legislatures any less notable. A better UK comparison would be with members of the House of Lords, who are not elected but are regarded as notable. Phil Bridger (talk) 14:51, 18 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep. Notable as a national level MP and the author just added a verifiable citation to the article.. • Gene93k (talk) 19:05, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Temporary keep Normally members of parliaments are notable.  However, all the sources in the article are either directory information (WP:NOT) or not independent.  So the article does not prove that he is notable.  Give it some time, bring it to the attention of a WikiProject for Singapore, and if it hasn't gotten better, nominate again after a few months.  GRBerry 04:45, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment. WP:NOT says that Wikipedia is not a directory. It doesn't say that directories are not reliable sources. Phil Bridger (talk) 08:44, 24 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep now because a source has been found to confirm that he was an MP. Phil Bridger (talk) 08:44, 24 November 2007 (UTC)


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