Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/In Concert (Cornerstone album)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was DELETE. Redirecting is not suitable for a disambiguated title. Merging into the band article is not a possibility since that page has also been deleted.  Spinning Spark  13:52, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

In Concert (Cornerstone album)

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One-ref stub with no assertion of notability per WP:NALBUMS, and no evidence of it. This is a WP:POINTy creation, intended solely to increase the link count on Template:Doogie White, whose deletion the creator is contesting at Templates for discussion/Log/2013 March 16.

This falls so far short of notability that I PRODded it, but sadly the creator contested the PROD despite offering no claim of notability, let alone evidence of notability. The grounds for contesting was that "having more than 3-4 albums within a band article gets messy" ... but that's plain silly. There is no requirement to splat the entire tracklist of every non-notable album into a band article, and if doing so would overwhelm the article, then don't don't include the tracklist.

User:Jax 0677's WP:POINTy crapflood of stubs on clearly non-notable albums is getting worse, not better. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:57, 28 March 2013 (UTC) It's also a pity that Jax yet again misrepresents Wikipedia talk:Notability (music). There is no requirement to merge, let alone to merge losslessly. The guidance at Notability (music) remains that info on non-notable topics "may be included in other ways in Wikipedia, provided that certain conditions are met". There is definitely no requirements to splat a musician's article with the tracklist of a non-notable album by a non-notable band of which he happened to be a member. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 22:26, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Note that this one of 3 AFDs for non-notable albums by Cornerstone (Danish band). The others are at AFD:Out of the Blue (Cornerstone album) and AFD:Two Tales of One Tomorrow. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:21, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. The band itself does not appear to meet WP:GNG or WP:BAND - at best, it will be redirected to the notable band member's page. Articles on top of that for the non-notable group's individual albums are unnecessary, and none of them meet WP:NALBUMS.  Gong   show  16:49, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
 *  Keep (or merge LOSSLESSLY)  - Per this discussion, the album and its details should (at a minimum) be merged LOSSLESSLY into Cornerstone (Danish band) if the article is kept.  If it is deleted, the album and its details should be merged LOSSLESSLY into Doogie White. --Jax 0677 (talk) 17:31, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Reply. I have lost count of the number of recent AFDs in which I have seen Jax commenting. In none of them have I seen him pay any attention to the basic notability criteria at WP:GNG, and he remains true to form here.
 *  Reply  - There is plenty of space in the article for track listings and album details. Therefore, now that it is on Wikipedia and properly sourced, it should not be removed so long as the artist or ensemble is notable.   If the article becomes too large, then this falls under a size split. --Jax 0677 (talk) 22:37, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Why are you creating articles on clearly non-notable topics such as this? -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 22:56, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Denmark-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:14, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:14, 29 March 2013 (UTC)


 *  Reply  - I have not created an article on a non-notable album in some time, even though WP:BRD allows me to do so. There exists a school of thought discussed here stating "such merges to an artist's page tends to be too messy".  In fact, the notability of some of the albums that BHG nominated is being corroborated slowly but surely. --Jax 0677 (talk) 18:23, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Reply, Jax, nothing in BRD allows you repeatedly create articles on albums where there is no evidence of notability. And you have created dozens of them over the last few weeks. If you don't stop, then the list will form part of the case for imposing editing sanctions on you. -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 09:44, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. Some but not this one. Per WP:NALBUMS, "that an album is an officially released recording by a notable musician or ensemble is not by itself reason for a standalone article." WP:SPLIT is not a valid reason to have a separate article for a non-notable album. -- Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 00:21, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
 *  Reply  - I have not created any album articles in the past 24-48 hours. Also, if what Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars says is true, why do musical artists and ensembles have discography and award pages? --Jax 0677 (talk) 16:00, 30 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Doogie White, there is absolutely nothing to merge. J04n(talk page) 00:57, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.