Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/In Prison


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) Natg 19 (talk) 19:24, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

In Prison

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Non notable song, composed nearly 100 years ago, now recorded on a (so far) non notable record. The song hasn't received significant attention from reliable independent sources, only a passing mention. Fram (talk) 15:09, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep - the song passes WP:GNG on the basis of existing sources. The fact that it has only just been recorded for the first time is part of the notability, having been unearthed as part of the artistic remembrance in the UK of the 100th Anniversary of the First World War. Compositions by major composers in German POW camps during WWI are few and far between, Messiaens Quatuor pour la fin du temps is the best known example. As far as English songs go, investigation into the songs composed at Ruhleben Camp starts with L. Foreman In Ruhleben Camp Taylor & Francis 2011 - that work discussed Fuchs, Leigh Henry, Frederick Keel and Edward Clark, specifically mentioning this setting of the William Morris poem. In ictu oculi (talk) 15:20, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  Everymorning   talk to me  15:24, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, that was the passing mention I noted. Being rare or unique is not an aspect of notability, every human being is unique, but not all are notable (luckily). The Quatuor by Messiaen is a very notable composition, this song so far isn't. Fram (talk) 15:33, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
 * No, that wasn't the source you noted, this is a different one. The one you mentioned was Stephen Banfield Sensibility in English Song Cambridge University Press 1985 9780521379441 The First World War p.139 "More worthy of remembrance is Frederick Keel's gentle setting (1921) of William Morris' poem 'In prison' composed in 1915 in the Ruhleben (Berlin) prisoner-of-war camp in which, along with Edgar Bainton and Benjamin Dale, he was interned" In ictu oculi (talk) 15:45, 18 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep as passes GNG. – Davey 2010 •  (talk)  03:48, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
 * "Passes GNG" how eaxctly? One or two very passing mentions, one recording on a non notable record. Fram (talk) 08:28, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 20:42, 25 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep I'd say it passes WP:GNG with the sources in the existing article and the one mentioned above by In ictu oculi. Certainly enough to support a stub. Libby norman (talk) 00:36, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
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