Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/In Search of the Titanic


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The result was delete. Michig (talk) 06:56, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

In Search of the Titanic

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Misplaced AfC submission that I moved to preferred location. User re-copy pasted it back into main space. Unnotable and fails WP:GNG. Ramaksoud2000 (Talk to me) 06:32, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. Non-notable. DoctorKubla (talk) 07:08, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment: An Italian children's animated minor film, released in Italy under the name Tentacolino. We need look to look for Italian language sources.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 09:34, 20 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Userify or move to AfC until notability can be established. Ansh666 01:08, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Notability either exists or it doesn't. It's also unlikely that this is an up and coming type of thing because this has been out since 2001. Ramaksoud2000 (Talk to me) 01:43, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
 * As Michael stated above, sources may be in other languages (Italian, in this case). Just because it's "not notable" in English-language sources doesn't mean it's not notable. I'd say wait and see if the creator can find sources demonstrating notability, otherwise it can just live either in userspace or in AfC. Ansh666 02:20, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
 * In light of recent developments, I elect to follow the crowd and call for delete. Ansh666 01:21, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
 * (off-topic) Ramaksoud200 - I think Ansh666 meant "until notability can be demonstrated." If a famous person dies and the only reliable sources that report it are in print and no Wikipedia readers notice, can we put it on Wikipedia?  No, because even though it's notable, notability hasn't been demonstrated to any Wikipedia editors.  davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail)  01:23, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I meant that there has been plenty of time for reliable sources to pick up on this and write about it, and it only takes a couple minutes to see if something is notable. Ramaksoud2000 (Talk to me) 01:26, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
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 * Delete So we've established there arn't any English language sources that demonstrate notability? We're just assuming there might be some Italian ones for this minor film? Personally, I don't speak Italian, thats why I contribute the English Wikipedia. Unless an Italian speaking Wikipedian can root out some sources, this one has to be a WP:NRVE delete IMO. Pol430   talk to me  12:54, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete and start over or just plain delete - it appears that this film is notable - for just how awful it is. Any article about the film that does not focus primarily on what makes the topic notable is arguably (and in this case definately) outside of Wikipedia's educational mission and should be deleted.  I would settle for keeping this as a stub though.  However do not keep under any circumstance until I or someone finds reliable sources.  All I've found so far are blogs, web-boards, and a few "movie review" sides of unknown quality that I'm not willing to say qualify as WP:RS.  There are WP:RS sites that confirm the films existence (e.g. IMDB), but they don't provide substantial coverage needed to establish notability.  davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail)  00:51, 22 May 2013 (UTC) Delete - insufficient WP:RS sources in Google News under Italian name and insufficient WP:RS sources in a Google web search to establish notability.  See comments on article's talk page.  davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail)  01:16, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment: I just went through a pretty exhaustive Google search for reliable sources on this film and found next to nothing. The only time that I got any results was through the News-Archives option http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=us&tbm=nws&q=Tentacolino&oq=Tentacolino&gs_l=news-cc.3..43j43i53.53601.55647.0.55986.11.3.0.7.0.0.183.523.0j3.3.0...0.0...1ac.1.wt2qYRTNl1s#q=Tentacolino&hl=en&gl=us&tbm=nws&source=lnt&tbs=ar:1&sa=X&ei=z5ieUcaCDaGT0gHqoYGgDA&ved=0CCEQpwUoBQ&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.47008514,d.dmQ&fp=2732f4dc3fcb8ebf&biw=1170&bih=800.


 * The first result appears to be discussing this film, but unfortunately the link seems to be taking me to the website's homepage, instead of the article itself. Another one of the results has already been mentioned on the Talk page and lists the film as one of several to be nominated for some award. Here is the link for that one . The only other result that I was able to find is this, which contains a biography of the film's producer and lists this as one of the film's that he worked on. I don't think that the first result provides significant coverage, know that the other two do not, and have no idea about the reference to Segnocinema that is already included in the article. Taken together though, these four probably count for something. Whether they are enough to justify the existance of this article, I'll leave to others to determine. I assume that they most likely are not, but still, it seems a shame to delete this, since it is a real film that was professionaly made and theatrically released. --Jpcase (talk) 00:09, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
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