Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/In Search of the Wow Wow Wibble Woggle Wazzie Woodle Woo


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to Tim Noah. Shimeru (talk) 18:45, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

In Search of the Wow Wow Wibble Woggle Wazzie Woodle Woo

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Non-notable film. Google search turns up nothing really. Creator is blocked sockpuppet of indefblocked editor. —  Dæ dαlus Contribs 22:21, 1 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Speedy Delete G5 (author banned). So tagged.  -- Dennis The Tiger   (Rawr and stuff) 22:51, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:11, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. The film appears to be notable, according to the sources. Xtzou (talk) 23:26, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Please explain how two retailers are evidence of notability. Amazon and some music download site are not evidence of notability.—  Dæ  dαlus Contribs 23:49, 1 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Tim Noah. The film & song exist and can be purchased, but have not established any individual notabilty.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 00:18, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete As non-notable film. Warrah (talk) 12:47, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Tim Noah. -- Basilicofresco  (msg) 14:19, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. It won four Emmy Awards. (As a side note, this appears far more notable than Sonicsgate, a film I proposed for deletion that was kept.  Sometimes the deletion process seems a bit arbitrary given that there are a number of deletion votes for In Search of... already.)  Chicken Wing (talk) 03:04, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes... I saw that blurb on the Tim Noah website, but was unable to determine if the film won the Emmys or if Tim himself had. If it can be sourced that the individual film had won them, then I'd be very happy to change to keep. But if the Emmys are Tim's and not the film's, then I'd still have to feel that the film itself has yet to show individual notability through RS.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 13:56, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm surprised there isn't some sort of Emmy database out there. If there is, I didn't find it in my brief search.  Anyway, a bit of original research here, this article says Tim Noah has eight Emmy Awards, which would suggest that the four number applies just to "In Search".  The article also notes that "In Search" has aired on HBO and The Discovery Channel, which may be marginal evidence of notability.  This account notes that one of the four awards went to Patricia Royce for producer, suggesting that the awards are tied to the film and not to Noah.  It's a borderline case to be sure, and I probably wouldn't cry myself to sleep if the article disappeared, but four Emmy Awards is four Emmy Awards.  Chicken Wing (talk) 14:09, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Why are past Emmys such a bear to source? Researching past Emmys at the Academy of Television Arts & Sciences website at http://www.emmys.org/ is amazingly unhelpful.  Like you, I found repeated references to them in SPS, but nothing in RS.  And even though numerous reliable sources DO call the film award-winning,.... they always do it as an aside in articles more about the creator than the film.  Two possibilities presented themselves for this assumedly award-winning film: 1) it could be kept and expanded and sourced... or 2) set as a redirect to Tim_Noah where there is already substantially more information about the topic.  If someone has better luck than me, I would have no problem with it being kept, or spun out again later if someone were to properly expand and source the awards... but at the moment, the Tim Noah article is far more comprehensive about the film.   Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 18:00, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment. I favour the redirect as suggested to Tim_Noah. Xtzou ( Talk ) 18:11, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.