Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/In the Presence of Enemies


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was REDIRECT. postdlf (talk) 05:25, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

In the Presence of Enemies

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A couple of years ago, we successfully cleaned up the proliferation of articles on individual Dream Theater songs, merging all but a few of them into their parent articles per WP:NSONGS. See, e.g., . In particular, several forks from the album Systematic Chaos were done away with, e.g., but the problem has started to return. Home_(Dream_Theater_single) and Forsaken (Dream Theater song) are essentially a recreates of Home_(Dream_Theater_song) and Forsaken_(song), which were redirected per, and may qualify under WP:SPEEDY G4. Constant Motion (song) is a recreate of Constant Motion, n.b., and obviously qualifies under G4. In the Presence of Enemies is a little different; it escaped the dragnet last time by the sneaky strategy of not yet existing, but I nevertheless submit that it is in just the same boat now as the other Systematic Chaos songs were then: it fails NSONGS. Despite minor differences in posture as these four come to AfD, I propose that they should be given the same treatment: D&R to the parent albums Scenes from a Memory (Home) and Systematic Chaos (the rest). - Simon Dodd { U·T·C·WP:LAW } 18:11, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 14:13, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:01, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Stifle (talk) 20:51, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Redirect. As much as I love Dream Theater, it's no secret that their individual songs really don't receive much attention from conventional media sources. As such, articles about their individual songs will most likely consist entirely of original research (as some of these already do). --Cryptic C62 · Talk 15:02, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Comment Nominators, please take more care in future to remove the underlining from the titles of articles copy-pasted from the URL, so as to not give the impression that the actual title of the article is flawed. Anarchangel (talk) 10:27, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.