Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/In the Shadow of the Revolution


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The result was no consensus. North America1000 12:57, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

In the Shadow of the Revolution

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Documentary film about the Bolivarian Revolution that presents no claim to notability. Sources in the article are a blog and a film database (cited twice in different guises) and that's all we have. Search shows no critical reception, impact, discussion or other evidence from RS this film passes WP:GNG let alone WP:NFILM, no awards, critical reviews etc Alexandermcnabb (talk) 06:24, 15 July 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, RL0919 (talk) 22:46, 22 July 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:32, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Film and Venezuela. Alexandermcnabb (talk) 06:24, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep Article meets WP:GNG because its coverage is independent. I have fixed the PM Press link, which previously linked to the already cited Filmzie page. I'm not sure what's the blog that is being referred to, but Caracas Chronicles besides analysis and opinion pieces, the outlet also focuses on news articles and has editorial oversight that a blog doesn't; its entry can be seen at WP:VENRS. Given the distribution of the film and its release on Amazon Prime (In The Shadow Of The Revolution), the article should meet WP:NFILM too. --NoonIcarus (talk) 11:09, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep, there are some good coverage of this. Covered by Caracas Chronicles in an article here and elswhere. Karl Twist (talk) 11:12, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment People, Caracas Chronicles is a blog. And that means not RS... Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 16:04, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
 * You can see Caracas Chronicles' entry at WP:VENRS. The website counts with experienced journalists and has editorial oversight, meaning that it is not a self published source or match the definition one would expect in WP:BLOGS. A better comparison for their analyses could be the ones in The Economist, Foreign Policy or Americas Quarterly --NoonIcarus (talk) 19:57, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment regarding above - Yes NoonIcarus, that's what I am thinking too. There are a lot of hits of Caracas Chronicles in Google News. And there are many sites that are blogs but reliable news sources. So I would say that Caracas Chronicles is a reliable source. Karl Twist (talk) 08:14, 5 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete The first sites looks like a blog, states it a blog and states states "friend of.." so doesn't seem to be editorially independent in this instance. The other similar to IMDB, i.e. film/cast listing sitres are they are likely Non-RS. Fails WP:SIGCOV. Don't see any reviews on a before. It just to be there mates and some IMDB style listings.    scope_creep Talk  09:35, 3 August 2022 (UTC)


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