Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Independent Federation of Chinese Students and Scholars


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was Keep (No consensus) There is no clear consensus to delete here. Further I note that the organisation can be of historical significance even if the website is out of date. 1000 reps, 200 universities seems notable enough to me. -- + +Lar: t/c 06:52, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Independent Federation of Chinese Students and Scholars
Appears to be sufficiently notable, but author's hostile attitude (see Articles_for_deletion/Liu_Yong-chuan) and unsourced promotional language makes me ponder about whether it's actually notable, and therefore decided to submit it to an AfD to see what folks' opinions are. Weak keep. --Nlu (talk) 08:00, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete notability unclear, looking at the website of this organization, it seems that the organization is defunct since seven years but the unwikified article talking about great achievements of the organization does neither mention this nor talk about the reasons Deleteme42 11:09, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep, notable. Author's attitude is irrelevant. Definitely needs cleanup. Royalbroil 14:10, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Author's attitude is relevant evidence as to whether the organization is actually notable. This type of defensive language tend to come more often from people who write vanity articles.  --Nlu (talk) 15:35, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, authors attitude is irrelevant, but this doesn't meet what I consider to be a minimal guideline for inclusion of a club, organization, or society. The claims in this article are not verifiably sourced.  I don't see any external media coverage of the group, the "Washington March for Chinese Democracy", or their purported lobbying campaign.  As they appear to be defunct I imagine there is not much potential for them to meet any reasonable criteria for inclusion in the future.  Willing to reconsider if verifiable information from a reliable source is provided to source the claims in the article.--Isotope23 16:34, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Verifiable info http://www.ifcss.net/press.htm listed some of the newspaper articles from Washington Post, Los Angeles Times, and others. student80
 * Weak Keep - I've edited one link and added another. Hong Qi Gong 17:15, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
 * ''Verifiable" see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiananmen_Square_protests_of_1989


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