Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Independent Party of Utah


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Merrill Cook.  Sandstein  08:12, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Independent Party of Utah

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Defunct minor political party that elected no candidates to any office and did not appear to receive substantial, non-trivial coverage from multiple reliable secondary sources. Toa Nidhiki05 12:40, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 12:42, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 12:42, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Utah-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 12:42, 18 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Merrill Cook, since it was mainly a vehicle for his varried political career.John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:49, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. The founder Merrill Cook or somebody else has not elected no candidates to any office and did not appear to receive substantial, non-trivial coverage from multiple reliable secondary sources. - MA Javadi (talk) 15:19, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Merrill Cook, where a brief, sourced mention can be added.E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:23, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Merrill Cook. --SalmanZ (talk) 21:09, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep. The party existed, as established by sources.  The stub is sourced and it is useful, including importantly to differentiate itself from the Utah League of Independent Voters which, per the article, "is sometimes mistakenly believed to be affiliated with the Independent Party. ULIV is a nonpartisan political group seeking structural reform to Utah's political system as part of a national effort led by IndependentVoting.org."  It is like a disambiguating function, to provide clarity to readers, which is a considerable service.  Also, the party was substantial in that it generated >130,000 votes in one election, and then the article documents that its next/last candidate garnered just over 1,000 votes, so it went kaput.  There is no form of promotion going on;  this is just a proper simple very short article that probably should never be expanded.  It would not be proper to have the stuff about the other party covered in an article about the individual person Merrill Cook. User:Johnpacklambert, User:E.M.Gregory, others, could you please reconsider your different !votes?
 * It is extremely high quality in its brevity, in the sense that quality means fitness for its purpose. I have commented in another AFD or two about our needing to have some sort of designation of that, that it is as well-developed as it should be, as opposed to the Featured Article system which is only capable of recognizing huge articles.
 * It may be late in the AFD for this "Keep" argument to "win"; if it is not kept then redirect/merge to Merrill article is better than outright deletion.  We are obligated to seek alternatives to deletion. --Doncram (talk) 21:40, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Doncram, I don’t think your comment makes any sense here. This stub isn’t even cited properly - to call this a model of an article is bizarre. This article is actually of incredibly poor quality. None of the factual claims this article makes are backed up by internal citations. Four of the sources are completely broken. No sources are given that establish significant, non-trivial coverage - the sources include mentions that it achieved ballot access or citations that are supposed to explain who a candidate was, but are broken. The Utah Leauge of Independent Voters does not have an article and there is nothing at all indicating there is any confusion at all here - that claim seems to be original research. The only thing that seems even remotely notable about this party is that Merrill Cook founded and ran on it - which is why it should be merged to his article, just like we merged the American Delta Party to the Rocky De La Fuente 2016 presidential campaign page. This article clearly does not meet WP:ORGCRIT. Toa Nidhiki05 16:21, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   13:28, 25 July 2019 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 18:28, 1 August 2019 (UTC)


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