Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Independent Republic of Zulia


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Redirect to Zulia. I believe the consensus was to attempt the preserve the article's content through a merge, but the article in its current form does not have sufficient sourcing to verifiably introduce these claims into the main article. I have taken the sources found in the discussion here, and will add them to Talk:Zulia with a note asking for coverage of area's push for independence. Due to the concerns about the veracity of the claims in the subject article, I have deleted it prior to redirecting. Xymmax So let it be written   So let it be done  22:33, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Independent Republic of Zulia

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It has been brought up several times in this article's talk page that this article may be a hoax. Coupled with the fact that it does not seem to meet notability requirements and had been blanked for being "a lie" recently, it seems to need a formal AfD discussion. MrNerdHair (talk) 20:19, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. Not a hoax, although I don't know how it does in terms of notability. See here (search for Independent Republic of Zulia) and Maracaibo, which references the Republic. D ARTH P ANDA duel 20:39, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. Hi, I speak to you from Caracas, Venezuela, I am from the city of Maracaibo in Zulia STATE!, "The Independent Republic of Zulia", does not exist, that name is used most of in Maracaibo as a joke among locals, because the great regionalist sentiment that exists in the region, its culture and traditions, but until there comes the question, as the Zulian Citizen, loves to Venezuela and there is no plan of separatism, although some neo-Nazi groups want to push it, but not have any support. Greetings and I hope that erased the article once, as it is a hoax --190.79.108.72 (talk) 20:44, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. Erasing the article is not a solution. AfD is a far better option (where it is right now). Can you cite any sources that point to this being a hoax? I would change my views on this article if this is true. D ARTH P ANDA duel 20:50, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. My Reasons for blank the article are my talk page, not repeat them here again, if you want to believe in any more trash gets on the Internet as a source in someone's native place and several warnings from users for months on the discussion page from the article, as well, If you want to remain partial and pretend to know about from Maracaibo, Zulia from the United States, as do --190.79.108.72 (talk) 20:58, 29 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment If as anon states, it is a "joke among locals", and that joke has been plublished in multiple independent and verifiable sources, it may be a notable hoax, and thus deserve to have an article that describes the nature of the hoax, but even if this is the case, such an article would be completely different from it's current revision, and thus, deletion would be appropriate. -Verdatum (talk) 20:59, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment See more evidence of the joke, are in Spanish, sorry

http://www.venelogia.com/archivos/309/

http://www.caballerosdelfuego.com.ve/cdfeventos/Visazulia.htm

http://forosbeta.cantv.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=32503&PID=1354442#1354442

http://www.tunoticierodigital.com/foro/republica-independiente-del-zulia-t570.html --190.79.108.72 (talk) 21:06, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge/redirect - to Zulia. Not worth its own page but the speculation and proposal is well sourced and certainly merits a section in the main article - see . TerriersFan (talk) 21:08, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge. Agree with TerriersFan above - enough info, but doesn't deserve its own article. Bsimmons 666  (talk) Friend? 21:45, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge to Zulia unless any evidence can be that this state ever achieved any form of independence, rather than some people simply declaring it. Phil Bridger (talk) 10:29, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Venezuela-related deletion discussions.   -- Raven1977 (talk) 20:47, 1 November 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.