Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Indian Invasion Comedy


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. seresin | wasn't he just...? 17:11, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Indian Invasion Comedy

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This article, about an apparently straight-to-DVD comedy video, was created in the wake of a number of attempts (one, two & three) to insert the link to the official site into unrelated articles. While the number of Google hits on the title is initially impressive, it's difficult to find ones which aren't in some way promotional or which could be viewed as significant coverage (professional reviews etc). Most telling is the fact that Google News doesn't yield a single review or announcement of this DVD's release. Wikipedia is not a vehicle for the promotion of DVDs; nor is it a home for that which lacks significant, independent coverage. Sturm 09:57, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak keep. It is written slightly in an advertising tone but it passes on WP:N and WP:V (IMDB reference). --  Niaz (Talk •  Contribs)  13:23, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
 * An IMDB entry doesn't, on its own, assert notability. See David's Demon or Green Arrow Fan Film. --Sturm 13:48, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment – Tagged for speedy. It is a cut and paste from a clearly marked copyrighted site as provided here .  Shoessss |  Chat  02:59, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - I have restored the article and reopened the debate. If you look at the page http://www.indianinvasioncomedy.com/clips.htm, the DVD description and comedian biographies are released under the GNU Free Documentation Licence and can be freely used in Wikipedia, hence it is not a copyright violation. One may, however, have their suspicions about the GFDL being for promotional purposes, but to delete as a copyvio is against the proper process. --Canley (talk) 10:29, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment – Man, I got to get new glasses. I should have never missed that one.  Thanks for the catch Canley Sorry. Shoessss |  Chat  11:45, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

My apologies for breaking any rules of article creation and linking. I created the original article because I just bought the DVD and am a fan. I have plans to expand it by adding more details about Indian comedy, not just this show. This show is notable because it's the only US show featuring Indian comedians, other than Russell Peters.

I didn't make all of those links mentioned above, but I did link to Margaret Cho and Chris Rock because one of the comedians was a co-host on a TV show with Margaret, and the other has opened for and is good friends Chris Rock (as mentioned in their bios).

Regarding the bios, I asked for permission from the site owner, that is why he added the GNU text at the bottom of the page. I was planning to change and expand those later.

My understanding is that the show will be broadcast in the summer on PPV, and then on MTV India in the fall. If the article belongs in a different category, I'll put it there.

As for press coverage, it hasn't received coverage from big media, but it has been covered by Indian media: AVSTV (a US based nationally syndicated TV show), India Today (US based nationally distributed newspaper), Mehfil Magazine (Canadian Magazine), and a few others. It'll also be the feature story in Anokhi Magazine, a US based Indian entertainment magazine.

Sorry for breaking any rules. Please let me know what the decision is so I don't spend more time on editing. Grassvalley (talk) 16:17, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

It was also featured on Imaginasian TV. Grassvalley (talk) 16:18, 2 March 2008 (UTC) 
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions.   —Pixelface (talk) 14:36, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep It may never become a featured article, but it appears to be notable. – thedemonhog   talk  •  edits  17:09, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Master of Puppets   Call me MoP! ☺  22:43, 9 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete So far all the notability I can see here is inherited. Most of the actors were co-hosts, are friends with famous people, or have been on reality shows and the like. The DVD itself gets no notable Google hits. Master of Puppets   Call me MoP! ☺  22:43, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep &mdash; All these arguments about notability miss the point. Ultimately, "notability" is a purely arbitrary standard, and frankly I'm not sure why we should even care about it anyway.  Isn't verifiable existence sufficient?  Why does it have to meet some arbitrarily-defined and arbitrarily-judged "notability" to be worthy of inclusion?  Kurt Weber ( Go Colts! ) 23:24, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete no stand-alone notability. Fails WP:N.  Jerry   talk ¤ count/logs 04:11, 10 March 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.