Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Industrial hardcore


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Delete. There are lots of popular terms we know exist and have contemporary useage, but we don't have articles about them unless it can meet WP:N, WP:V and WP:RS. It's all very simple, really. JERRY talk contribs 00:05, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Industrial hardcore

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Non-notable sub-sub-genre; wholly unreferenced and most likely original research. Only two of the artists listed and none of the labels even have articles here. — Hello, Control Hello, Tony  17:08, 4 February 2008 (UTC)


 * It's a subgenre, there are many labels which one has a different sound of hardcore then some others, and they all call themself industrial hardcore. But it's really hard to collect references in topics like that, especially since it's underground music. I mean how would you add source material? Adding links to labels which call themself industrial hardcore is enough? Or adding samples from tracks, or what? --TaZaR 16:38, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment References from reliable sources, like articles from established magazines or newspapers—you need third party references. If it's so underground that reliable sources can't be found, it's an indication that the genre does not meet Wikipedia's notability requirements. — Hello, Control Hello, Tony  13:40, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, TerriersFan (talk) 02:18, 14 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment. A lot of bands labelled under the digital hardcore subgenre in the 1990s were also applied the label Industrial hardcore. I couldn't tell you if they're similar enough, but I've suggested a merge on the talk page. Mostlyharmless (talk) 05:32, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep, with distaste: I cannot abide "nu industrial slo core death metal viking folk" sorts of sieves, but there is widespread usage of this term, though no discernible meaning for it.  Utgard Loki (talk) 19:39, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: The label is supposed to mean Industrial music (noise bands like Eindestreusen die Neubaten...or however it is spelled) plus hardcore punk rock.  It's not "hardcore that's really hard."  If you marry The Germs with Throbbing Gristle, you'd have it, I guess.  Utgard Loki (talk) 19:43, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Unless a reliable source can be provided, the article is un-verifiable and original research. I get what the combination of words implies, and I am quite familiar with digital hardcore—or, at least when that record label was new and exciting. Just because people use it as a term doesn't make industrial hardcore a notable genre; it needs verifiable sources. — Hello, Control Hello, Tony  19:56, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions.   — Hello, Control  Hello, Tony  20:07, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - if there are no reliable sources, it fails verifiability. -- Orange Mike  |  Talk  19:56, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom's excellent and well thought out nomination. You have this one right.  Keeper   |   76   |   Disclaimer  21:41, 22 February 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.