Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Infanta Adelgundes, Duchess of Guimarães


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The result was   keep. unanimous agreement, nomination withdrawn Mgm|(talk) 09:10, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Infanta Adelgundes, Duchess of Guimarães

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This biography fails WP:NOT (Wikipedia articles are not genealogical entries) and WP:BIO (the subject has not received significant coverage in reliable secondary sources). Born the daughter of a long-deposed ex-king of Portugal, she appears to have done nothing of note in her life, and appears to be covered only in two brief genealogical entries (of which this article is essentially an expanded version) on websites whose reliability is not immediately apparent.  Sandstein  21:14, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Nomination withdrawn on account of the notability provided by the coverage in Christensen (thanks, Caponer!). I'm not impressed by the regency-in-absentia itself, though; the monarchy being deposed, that would seem to be a wholly empty office.  Sandstein   06:33, 18 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Portugal-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  23:04, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. The German Wikipedia's article on this person lists the memoirs of another royal as a reference: Quelle: von Bayern, Irmingard Prinzessin von: Jugenderinnerungen 1923-1950. St. Ottilien 2000. S. 114 -- Eastmain (talk) 23:56, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep As I said for Sultana bint Abdulaziz Al-Saud, "While notability is not inherited in most cases, royals are an exception: by its very nature, royalty is inherited." It's one thing to have an article on an average person descended from royalty (I remember reading somewhere that the majority of English people are descended from Edward III), but the daughter of a king — whether deposed or not doesn't matter — is reasonably to be expected to have sources written about her, especially as she lived to a significant age and married the son of another monarch.  Nyttend (talk) 00:20, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep per the new paragraph I've begun:
 * Regent-in-absentia
 * Between 1920 and 1928, Adelgundes acted as the regent-in-absentia on behalf of her nephew and Miguelist claimant to the Portuguese throne, Duarte Nuno, Duke of Braganza, who was only 12 years old when his father Miguel renounced his claim to the throne in favor of his son. At the beginning of her regency in 1920, Adelgundes was created 7th Duchess of Guimarães. In 1921, she authored a manifesto outlining the House of Braganza's goals for the restoration of the Portuguese monarchy.
 * [Note: this website erroneously states the beginning of her regency as 1910 but Duarte Nuno did not became claimant until 1920.]
 * Her regency is also mentioned at the Wikipedia article for Duarte Nuno, Duke of Braganza.
 * Another Wikipedia article for Archduke Karl Pius of Austria, Prince of Tuscany notes that Adelgundes was his godmother while Pope Pius X was his godfather.

--Caponer (talk) 03:00, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep I have seen more obscure royals than this with Wikipedia biographies, being the daughter of a king (even deposed) and acting as regent-in-absentia for (at the time) a relatively recently deposed dynasty does add up to notability, Wikipedia is not paper, but the article could explain more clearly the context of Portuguese royalty and claims to the throne. PatGallacher (talk) 03:10, 18 November 2008 (UTC)


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