Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Information Minister of Israel


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Spirit of Eagle (talk) 04:12, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Information Minister of Israel

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The title of this article suggests that the article will be about the political title "Information Minister of Israel", presumably covering when that title was created or something about the government's decision to create it. Instead, the article is a list of people who have held this position, with no references. I did a Google Books search that turned up many occurrences of the phrase, but nearly always as just a prelude to someone's name. I didn't find any actual information about the position itself, and the original author has provided none. We don't seem to have any subject-specific guidelines on the notability of a position per se to help guide this, so we have to fall back on WP:GNG. What I get are a LOT of brief mentions in passing, but nothing like a discussion about the position. Maybe this article could be retitled, "List of Information Ministers of Israel", but I am not certain what is best here. A loose noose (talk) 03:53, 31 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep. I have no idea about Israeli cabinet positions or Israel, however, it seems to be a legitimate article about an actual cabinet-level ministry within the Israeli Government. It has a corresponding Hebrew Wiki page as well and the creator of the page can easily expand the enWiki. Give them a chance to it.NWWT (talk) 04:03, 31 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions.  MT Train Talk 04:00, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Israel-related deletion discussions.  MT Train Talk 04:00, 31 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Confused keep. The Knesset website page All Ministers in the Ministry of Information (which seems to be the basis of this article) says there's a Ministry of Information, currently led by Gilad Erdan, BUT the Prime Minister's Office states that "the Government resolved to change Resolution No. 14 dated May 19, 2015, to divide the Ministry of Intelligence into two separate ministries—the Ministry of Intelligence and the Ministry of Strategic Affairs and Information" (bolding mine) and that Erdan would head it. We also have a Ministry of Strategic Affairs, of which Erdan is listed as the head. (Is there a Disinformation Minister, because he or she's doing a fine job.) Clarityfiend (talk) 06:52, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
 * According to Erdan's Knesset profile (click on government roles), he holds three separate ministerial positions. Number   5  7  11:54, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep A ministerial position is inherently notable IMO. Number   5  7  11:54, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep Although the article needs improving (And clarification on the actual title and whether this changed), notability is satisfied Pi (Talk to me!) 01:06, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep - The article does need improvement but it appears to pass notability. --  Dane talk  04:20, 2 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Can't add anything to the keep arguments - but if any ministerial position is inherently notable (something that doesn't seem unreasonable) then should that be noted? I mean it could add a couple of thousand theoretically notable articles (granted, probably not much literature on Vanuatu's historical ministers). Apologies for the ignorance on this - I don't know whether significant categories of non-controversial notability consideration areas are left non-stated in WP. Nosebagbear (talk) 22:20, 3 April 2018 (UTC)


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