Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Inglewood, Mecklenburg County, Virginia


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The result was   keep. Renaming, if desired, can be done through the usual methods. The Bushranger One ping only 18:56, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Inglewood, Mecklenburg County, Virginia

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This might be a community, in which case it, like all communities, will be notable -- but it might be just an estate, in which case it probably is not. The only avail ref is compatible with either interpretation. The lack of geographic references--or at least lack of any I can locate-- implies it may be just an estate or house. Sending it here from Prod to make sure it gets a visible discussion.  DGG ( talk ) 05:52, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment Aside from references which only mention it as the birthplace of William Goode, the only mention of it I could find was this article, which is unfortunately behind a paywall. It's not listed in the GNIS as anything, and it doesn't seem to still be a community, though it could be a former one. The lack of references doesn't help its case though. TheCatalyst31 Reaction•Creation 08:20, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment on source found The article you found makes it very clear that Inglewood was only a plantation owned by the Goode family.  The only mention of anything like a settlement near it is a post office called "Inca" that was around 2 miles away (the date of establishment/de-establishment of the post office aren't given, but after its de-establishment it was turned into a store, which was gone by 1915).  Most of the 8 page article is about the horses bred, raced and sold from the plantation.  Nothing in the article demonstrates that this was a community, nor that, as a plantation, it was notable in any way.  By 1942, when the article was written, it had ceased to be a plantation for at least four decades from what I can gather.  (There is an annoying lack of clear dates/milestones it the article, besides the name and amount of money each horse sold, and is written as if it was someone who lived there, and written for an audience that knew of the area, i.e. definitely local interest only.)   Ravendrop 09:37, 21 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete per my comment above.  Weak Keep After re-reading the article, and DGG's comments, and looking at Places of local interest, I've been swayed to change my vote. One suggestion I would make though, is to rename the article (something along the lines of Inglewood Plantation, Mecklenburg County, Virginia or the like) to avoid confusion.    Ravendrop 22:49, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Virginia-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 14:35, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep I apologize for unaccountably missing that article. Had I seen it, I would not have nominated for deletion.  I wrote all the following  before I saw Ravendrop's synopsis of the article: here is my own: In the full text of the article, which I can send to an editor if wanted--email me--Inglewood is given unambiguously as a plantation, i.e., a large estate, though a quite large estate in fact: "From the several conveyances it appears that the "Inglewood" Plantation as then constituted extended from Taylor's Ferry to a point east of Eastland's Creek with a frontage of considerably more than a mile on the north bank of the Roanoke River." (p.56) I se no indication it ever became a settlement, except perhaps in the sense that every Southern plantation where there was slave housing was a settlement--but the article mentions 13 slaves and a stable, but not separate slave housing.  From the article, one of the owners did more than posses a stable: he "maintained a race course on the "Inglewood" Plantation" and the article devotes 2 1/2 of its 8 pages to the stud there, which included what were a number of well-known horses, including a probable ancestor of  General Lee's "Traveller".  An estate that has a full article about it in an academic magazine important enough to be in JSTOR is notable. There is clearly additional material that could be adde to our article from it.    DGG ( talk ) 22:34, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep: Per DGG and Ravendrop. -  Neutralhomer •  Talk  • 01:51, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment Correct me if I'm wrong, but now that DGG has voted keep, and since he was the nominator (and since I was the only delete vote, but have since changed to keep) can't this be closed as withdrawn? Nevermind, see below. Ravendrop 01:55, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Weak delete Geez, I really feel bad now, but we had an edit conflict. Assuming that people want a common outcome that every Southern slaveowner's plantation should be presumed notable-- and I'm not sure how many people would support that interpretation of WP:NPLACE-- then maybe it should be renamed Inglewood (Thomas Goode estate).  Mount Vernon, Monticello and The Hermitage (Nashville, Tennessee), notable for their history,  aren't referred to as former unincorporated communities.  Does any source show where the Goode estate might have been? It doesn't appear to be recognized as notable enough for a historical marker.   Mandsford 02:05, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep, per Ravendrop. FieldMarine (talk) 04:14, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
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