Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Inootrumangalam


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The result was   keep. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:35, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Inootrumangalam

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There is no explicit claim of notability, and it is a tiny village, so there is no automatic claim notability either. Benboy00 (talk) 18:36, 16 September 2013 (UTC) Comment If sources, Tamil or not, are added, I will rescind my suggestion. Thanks, Benboy00 (talk) 23:12, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep. Named places and settlements are generally considered presumptively notable. A community of 400 people is far from the smallest settlement with Wikipedia coverage. Tamil-language sources almost certainly exist. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 19:09, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 23:51, 16 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep, now sourced with administrative info. I haven't been able to find a population source though. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  20:33, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Comment :/ I'm not sure that those sources are enough for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_%28geographic_features%29#Geographic_regions.2C_areas_and_places. Can anyone find some evidence of governmental recognition? (census would be great). Thanks, Benboy00 (talk) 11:45, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep I don't understand Indian local government well, so permit me to bring in an analogy from the USA. In the USA, the second line in the section Benboy quotes applies to neighborhoods and other subdivisions of clearly notable places (we don't automatically keep an article about a city neighborhood, especially if it's small and undefined), while the first line in the section includes unincorporated communities in civil townships, such as small villages without their own governments and without separate recognition in the census.  If I understand the article correctly, Inootrumangalam's situation is much more like the unincorporated community in the civil township, and Google Maps seems to agree: it's a small populated place in the middle of what's either forests or open fields, not a part of a larger city, while Karur district appears to be analogous to a civil township or a county.  Nyttend (talk) 13:28, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Comment The problem I have with this is that the only source we have for this places location is the author of this article, Dsvvimal, who's only edits have been to this article. Searching on google maps finds Arunoottimangalam, which seems quite different from Inootrumangalam. Are they the same place? In that case, should this article be named Arunoottimangalam? The sources seem to mention Inootrumangalam (although I don't speak Tamil, I used google translate), but dont really provide information on exactly where it is. I would just really like some census data, and maybe the thoughts of a user who speaks Tamil. SpacemanSpiff, do you speak Tamil? If so, can you tell us what these articles actually say? I dont mean a full translation, but any relevant facts that they contain? Thanks, Benboy00 (talk) 15:41, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
 * According to his userpage, Tamil is SpacemanSpiff's cradlespeech, and he's also able to use Hindi, Spanish, and French, although we have the oddity that his userboxes doesn't mention any familiarity with English :-) Nyttend (talk) 01:32, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the notification Nyttend, I do occasionally dabble in English too, perhaps I should update my userboxes! As far as the refs go, the two verify the statements that I've added them against. The first ref is a passing mention that verifies the statement, the second is about Ration card corrections in the administrative division (Panchayat) and verifies both the first and the second statements in the article. &mdash; Spaceman  Spiff  03:37, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
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