Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Inside the Revolution: A Journey into the Heart of Venezuela (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. ✗ plicit  13:33, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

Inside the Revolution: A Journey into the Heart of Venezuela
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Article fails WP:NFOE, the content does not show that the film was widely distributed or screened at cinemas.

It has had an issue relying on primary sources for over ten years, and on 2009 a deletion discussion had already decided on its deletion, partly due to the same reason. After all this time, there aren't independent sources that demonstrate its notability. NoonIcarus (talk) 00:12, 5 November 2022 (UTC) Relisting comment: Relisting. Soft Deletion is not an option. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 00:43, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Film, Politics,  and Venezuela. NoonIcarus (talk) 00:14, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. I think NFOE is more an indicator than a hard rule—a film that wasn't screened widely might still be notable. That said, I'm not finding anything in a cursory search for anything that meets basic reliable independent coverage; blogs, screening announcements , the film itself (it's on Youtube and Vimeo, I watched a bit), and some stuff (like this, which might just be a catalogue entry ). The film might also be discussed under its Spanish title, which appears to be Desde Dentro: Un viaje al corazón de la revolución venezolana (per ) but even with that, I found nothing in books or newspapers. My library subscriptions are probably a bit US-centric, I'd love for someone with access to Venezuelan newspapers to take a look, but it seems to not pass notability. As a procedural note, the earlier AfD found consensus to delete, but with encouragement to bring it back once it met WP:NF; the recreation of it shortly thereafter might have been a G4-issue at the time, but given this was all in 2009, I think it's worth re-assessing. Dylnuge  (Talk • Edits) 05:44, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
 * On 25 August 2009, a warning related to speedy deletion was placed in the author's talk page for the same reason, although I'm not sure if the article was tagged at the moment.
 * I've looked into the main Venezuelan newspapers (WP:VENRS) with the Spanish title, without finding any results. The only independent source that I can find in Spanish is a passing mention in a review of the director of South of the Border . This should demonstrate that the article fails WP:GNG. --NoonIcarus (talk) 11:10, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
 * You're right, page logs show it was deleted a second time under G4 on 25 August 2009, and then the current page was moved from the author's userspace on 17 November 2009. IDK if there were substantial differences between the November and August versions of the page, and I don't know how I feel about claiming G4 still applies on a 13 year old page, but it sure is a bit funny. Dylnuge  (Talk • Edits) 16:21, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete What's used for sourcing in the article is about what there is for sourcing, and it's not much. Blogs and the like. Oaktree b (talk) 02:06, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Well there's this in Jstor . A review I guess. Oaktree b (talk) 02:08, 11 November 2022 (UTC)


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