Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Institute for Corporate Culture Affairs


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was No consensus. Deathphoenix 16:34, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Institute for Corporate Culture Affairs
Lack of notability. Google search turned up only 30 pages or so, with Wikipedia ranked second. Bcasterline 06:30, 22 January 2006 (UTC) 'This AfD is being relisted to generate a clearer consensus. Please add new discussion below this notice. Thanks! Deathphoenix' 02:12, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete company that assists other companies to do something. No stand-out achievements.  Ruby 06:36, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep and expand. As a non-profit actively engaged in social responsibility and corporate members that include some of the largest companies in Germany (Volkswagen, Deutsche bank, etc.) I see no reason to delete. -- JJay 10:19, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Weak keep per WP:CORP. Stifle 16:52, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
 * A Google search doesn't turn up anything I can see that would satisfy WP:CORP -- no press releases, publications, etc. Seems totally unremarkable to me. Bcasterline 15:19, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't see how those guidelines are applicable given that this is not a company. -- JJay 15:34, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * None of the existing notability guidelines are applicable. But this organization is not newsworthy, a criterion which is central to WP:CORP, WP:BIO, WP:WEB, and the general spirit of "notability".  Participation by a few companies that are notable does not guarantee notability. Bcasterline 15:58, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * As none of the guidelines are applicable I feel even more comfortable voting keep for a non-profit active in social causes, especially as corporate respônsibility issues are not exactly front-page news in Germany. -- JJay 16:12, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. Per nom. Metta Bubble 07:04, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep - Despite its name, this organization seems to be the product of some corporate leaders' vanity, but I'm afraid they're notable enough. See http://www.ethniki.gr/en/pr_release_resb.asp?P_ID=348 — Hillel 03:37, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Strong Delete: Caravaca (below) is right, having looked carefully at the website and at the other Google hits, in the light of his comment, I'm now convinced this is indeed a non-notable one-man vanity "association". Exactly the stuff we shouldn't be fooled by. This one was well disguised though. — Hillel 15:55, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep. The individuals named in the article are world-famous and their activities, including this one, are notable.  They're also newsworthy, if you read the financial pages.  The article itself could use some expansion - I think I'll put a "stub" tag on it if I can figure out the best one to use. -Ikkyu2 03:04, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete. Looked at this for some time. I don't like the total absence of a German-language equivalent of the same site (which might have been more informative) - suggests they may not actually be doing anything much. I agree with the view that this may simply be a vanity-association created by a well-connected banker who wants to ensure his place in history. Does "notable" mean well-connected or significant? Not significant. Caravaca 13:35, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
 * What banker? The article and website clearly state that the Institute was founded by a professor. Also the Institute's seminars and publications are listed on the website, with materials available in both English and German. -- JJay 16:18, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
 * The "professor" was actually a banker who got himself an honorary professorship (a modern German equivalent of a knighthood or an earldom). And the website itself (or any equivalent) is not in German, which suggests to me that it isn't aimed at Germans, which doesn't make sense if it is in Frankfurt. Normally German websites of this calibre are bi-lingual with the main version being in German. Caravaca 16:26, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I think you are going a bit far in your statements. Checking on Professor Pohl, I get 20,000 google hits . From what I can tell, he has been a historian for at least 30 years and a Prof since the early 90s. He has written approximately 30 works of financial history . He thus does not seem to be a banker who has gotten himself a title. He also would not seem to need the ICCA to "ensure his place in history". -- JJay 16:44, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I came across a second professor with the same name while researching; you might be getting them mixed up, or I might be wrong, but I've run out of time for this. Caravaca 19:14, 28 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep as per JJay Jcuk 16:09, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
 * very weak keep has many notable members, but there is at this stage no evidence it is anything other than a talking shop. Just zis Guy, you know? [T]/[C] [[Image:Flag of the United Kingdom.svg|25px| ]] AfD? 20:27, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete as non-notable. The members had me on the fence for a bit but what exactly has this boy's club done? "Know the tree by the fruits," as the saying goes, I see no fruit here. Ifnord 19:29, 1 February 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.