Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Intellectual Property Law Certification


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. While this short discussion is slightly leaning toward article deletion, other sentiments exist such as retention and merging. The notion of a potential merge can continue in a discussion on an article talk page. (Non-administrator closure) NorthAmerica1000 02:04, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

Intellectual Property Law Certification

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This is some local certification for lawyers in Florida. There is no explanation on it's Notability. The only sources cited is the web site of the organization that issues the certificate (and both are dead links). There are no reliable independent sources. Vanjagenije (talk) 07:26, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Florida-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:39, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Law-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:39, 9 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete - spam, and probably not notable. The only nationally recognized licensure for intellectual property law in the United States is by admission, after a bar examination, to the United States Patent and Trademark Office. One must be registered by the USPTO after passing their registration exam.  One need not be an attorney to take the exam, but that is the only commonly recognized exam. I saw from The Florida Bar's website that it exists, but that does not confer automatic notability. Bearian (talk) 20:44, 14 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep, but with a caveat. There are a number of certifications in various specialties, and I think having an article that discusses them is worthwhile.  I think the certifications are notable.  The American Bar Association maintains a standing committee on such specializations, and publishes a guide on such specializations. As far as I know, Florida is the only state bar certification for IP law; but North Carolina is introducing a certification for trademark law .  In addition, a number of law schools offer their own certifications in IP law, including Chicago-Kent School of Law; University of California at Davis School of Law; Depaul University College of Law (with certificates both in general IP and in patent law); and Santa Clara University's (called a High Tech Law Certificate, but clearly IP).


 * I suggest that the article be fleshed out to cover IP law specialization certification in general, both state-bar certification and law-school certification. As a topic it's clearly notable, even if the Florida program, standing alone, is not.


 * As a USPTO admittee myself, I agree with that the USPTO admission is the only formal program in the US for admission to practice in a particular specialty; but this is not about admission, it's about certification.


 * I would frankly like to see articles on all the various types of specialties, which can be viewed at the ABA's site. This article is perhaps the first, but I think it's a good start. I would like to see it fleshed out, and the bit about Florida's particular implementation of the certification stubbed down to a 2- or 3-sentence paragraph. TJRC (talk) 22:58, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
 * O.K., can you work on it to bring it up to snuff? Bearian (talk) 23:00, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
 * If it closes Keep, I'll give it a shot; although it will likely be more stubby than some of my previous AFD rescues (e.g.,, ). TJRC (talk) 23:28, 19 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Merge into The Florida Bar. Does not appear notable enough for a separate article as per User:Bearian.-- Pink Bull  16:07, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm staying with my "Keep" as stated above, but if not, while I don't object to merging to The Florida Bar, it should not redirect there (as is usually the case for merges). There are other IP law certifications than the Florida Bar's, and a reader seeking information on IP law certification is  misserved by being directed to The Florida Bar. TJRC (talk) 00:58, 23 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, slakr  \ talk / 01:28, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —Tom Morris (talk) 11:15, 30 May 2014 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.