Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Intellectual clubs


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  10:09, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

Intellectual clubs

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Too vague a grouping -- no sources that use this term. Everything from a Book discussion club to European Mathematical Society to Mensa International could vaguely fall in this grouping. power~enwiki ( π, ν ) 23:04, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
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Draftify as per User: AleatoryPonderings but with the caveat that the creator of the article (or others) be given a 60 day limit to improve the article. If it is not improved, delete it.Knox490 (talk) 01:47, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Draftify. Article is very new and has promise, although I agree it's not ready for mainspace at the moment. AleatoryPonderings (talk) 23:59, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. The creator stated "I did not mean this article will be a 'complete' one. It is meant to be a stub that will be edited and 'perfected' by other Wikipedians." on the talk page when they disputed the speedy. I'm not against draftifying but it doesn't sound like they have a lot of interest in improving it. Paisarepa (talk) 00:23, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
 * We have the articles Learned society and List of learned societies. Is this intended to be a distinct topic from those? Phil Bridger (talk) 08:44, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
 * That's the thing - I have no idea what is meant by 'intellectual club.' Learned society has a set definition, while this appears to be one user's personal views. ‡ Єl Cid of Valencia  talk  19:14, 14 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete or Draftify and move to 'List of intellectual clubs.' Needs a lot of work, primarily providing sources on what is considered an 'intellectual club.' Even with that, it is clear that this is meant to primarily serve as a list of clubs as opposed to an in-depth look at the nature of intellectual clubs as a group. I say 'delete' because right now it reads like the editor's personal views on intellectual clubs and there is no indication that there is an accepted definition. Anything starting with 'Throughout history, ' sounds like a personal essay. To have a list, we need unassociated sources that provide the defining characteristic of the list - we cannot use synthesis and original research to make a list of what we consider to be an 'intellectual club', such as we cannot make a list of 'Fashionable brands' or something of that sort. ‡ Єl Cid of Valencia  talk  19:12, 14 September 2020 (UTC)


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