Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Intercultural Institute of Ayuuk


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. This is kind of a frustrating AfD to close. The arguments basically come down to The sources aren't good enough vs. We keep schools. There's disagreement about the quality of the sources and whether they meet WP:GNG. -- RoySmith (talk) 20:22, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Intercultural Institute of Ayuuk

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Fails WP:GNG The Banner talk 09:31, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Mexico-related deletion discussions. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 10:14, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 10:14, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 10:14, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep. While some references are from the school's own website, the references from independent reliable sources are enough to establish notability. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 10:16, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep, in line with Eastmain above. Jzsj (talk) 15:03, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Strong delete I tool the time to look at all of the references. About half are primary sources. The other half show no in-depth coverage, other than two doctoral theses that address the article subject. In summary, there is no independent in-depth reporting, as in journalism, of any kind here. What we have instead is a set of superficial statements cobbled together in order to promote a Jesuit POV. Many of the sources are name checks or verifications that are as short as three word phrases. If you believe I am wrong, I would call upon you to link below my comment the sources that are a) independent of the subject, and b) in-depth.Fails GNG; article is a synthesis of primary sources. 96.127.244.27 (talk) 01:36, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Sources. What reason is there to question the reliability of this succinct report on the university, that is not superficial but a succinct summary of what one needs to know about the institution. Is the contention that none of the more than 1000 Jesuit-founded organizations in the world are independent of one another not open to debate? They are independently owned and directed and operate under independent boards of directors and very often lay presidents. And as said above, this reference from an independent, reliable source, along with this brief observation from an independent, academic source, and this dissertation along with this one help establish notability. Jzsj (talk) 14:42, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Here we go again, a centre of a jesuit university must prove that a jesuit centre of another university of the same branch is notable. The next is a story of one of the founders, a nice story about ICT at Ayuuk, and more passing mentions. No independent, in-depth sources. The Banner  talk 16:14, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Jzsj, you fundamentally do not understand the concept of an independent, in-depth reliable source, you have demonstrated many times.96.127.244.27 (talk) 16:57, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep: a degree-awarding institution of higher learning. Not WP:TNT eligible; I don't a point in deleting the article. K.e.coffman (talk) 01:47, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Based on what policy? The Banner talk 04:57, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 11:40, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. A small and possibly unique university, and appropriate for keeping. There's enough information. In this whole series of Jusuit institutions,  we have deleted only the hopelessly spammy, merged institutes and the like that are part of a large institution, and kept the unique ones, just as we do for all other colleges and universities  DGG ( talk ) 07:06, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
 * On what policy or guideline is that based? The Banner talk</i> 12:40, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep - degree awarding institution with sources available to meet WP:GNG. Just Chilling (talk) 22:46, 31 August 2018 (UTC)


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