Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/International Aiki Peace Week


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Lankiveil (speak to me) 09:42, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

International Aiki Peace Week

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Non-notable, as an event does not really exist other than as an idea. Even the organization that promotes it is non-notable. Peter Rehse (talk) 15:03, 21 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 22:40, 21 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. Peter Rehse (talk) 08:28, 22 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete The only sources appear to be from the sponsors of the event.Mdtemp (talk) 20:13, 22 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete - No coverage in reliable sources. -- Whpq (talk) 15:07, 23 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Objection! - International Aiki Peace Week is since 2010 a yearly event with hundreds of participating dojos in many countries. If somebody thinks it does not really exist other than an idea, I ask him to go to the Google map of participating dojos (reference 4). Or to have a Google search for "International Aiki Peace Week" and explain why the about 12.000 entries found on hundreds of websites of Aikido dojos all over the world are "non-notable". The Wikipedia article for International Aiki Peace Week certainly deserves further improvement, but no deletion!--Jobo44 (talk) 07:44, 24 April 2013 (UTC) — Jobo44 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Objection- As an organizer of this event and a participant since inception, IAPW has been very real indeed. Apart from requiring a huge amount of energy and effort, the reality is that it has helped connect me with many teachers in the UK and abroad in a way that would never have happened had it never happened.  The comments made by the gentleman who suggests deleting this page are totally incorrect and show a considerable amount of ignorance not only about IAPW, but also about Aiki Extensions, the international group whose initiative this is.--86.14.226.94 (talk) 10:28, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
 * For starters, there's a very clear conflict on interest in your argument. The discussion here is about the best interests of Wikipedia in terms of it's notability guidelines, not a platform to promote your event. Secondly, the nomination does not need to be an expert on your event as to whether they get to nominate it or not. Our discussion here is that based upon our own findings, your event appears to be non-notable in terms of Wikipedia's guideline. Mkdw talk 21:19, 29 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment - The question here is whether this event meets wikipedia's inclusion criteria for having an article. This is established with significant coverage in independent reliable sources. -- Whpq (talk) 10:35, 24 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep - There ARE independent reliable sources. Yoshimitsu Yamada Shihan of the USAF spoke out in support of the International Aiki Peace Week in the USAF monthly newsletter a few months after the initial launch of the effort (as seen here ). I would hope that the USAF newsletter is considered a reliable source for news about Aikido. RobertKent2013 (talk) 05:31, 25 April 2013 (UTC) — RobertKent2013 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * I don't think it can be considered an independent source. 204.126.132.231 (talk) 13:35, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
 * May be you don´t think, but wikipedia says: materials that have been recorded then broadcast, distributed, or archived by a reputable party may also meet the necessary criteria to be considered reliable sources.--Jobo44 (talk) 14:07, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Apparently you don't understand the meaning of independent. 204.126.132.231 (talk) 14:20, 25 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment There are other options here including creating an article for Aiki Extensions with primary sources (blogs, youtube videos, newsletters and websites are not reliable primary sources - news articles are) and merging the article into that one or merging the article into International Day of Peace. There is a marked difference between notability for those involved in a project/program and notability in the context of Wikipedia as discussed in the inclusion criteria above.  As a stand alone article this one just does not meet those requirements.  I am not so sure Aiki Extensions would either for the same reasons but that remains to be seen.  As an aside (for those that want to shoot the messenger) I am not so ignorant (or against) the overall concepts or organization.Peter Rehse (talk) 09:41, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment Peter, at the beginning you said: "Non-notable, as an event does not really exist other than as an idea." Knowing the facts about IAPW can you explain that please? --195.93.60.34 (talk) 14:20, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Event as in gathering of people in one place.Peter Rehse (talk) 15:51, 25 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete Lacks independent sources and existing does not mean it's notable. 204.126.132.231 (talk) 13:30, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep - Following the wikipedia criteria for reliable sources this article meets the criteria.
 * "Reliable sources may be published materials with a reliable publication process, authors who are regarded as authoritative in relation to the subject, or both. These qualifications should be demonstrable to other people.


 * The term "published" is most commonly associated with text materials, either in traditional printed format or online. However, audio, video, and multimedia materials that have been recorded then broadcast, distributed, or archived by a reputable party may also meet the necessary criteria to be considered reliable sources. Like text sources, media sources must be produced by a reliable third party and be properly cited. Additionally, an archived copy of the media must exist. It is convenient, but by no means necessary, for the archived copy to be accessible via the Internet.


 * The reliability of a source depends on context. Each source must be carefully weighed to judge whether it is reliable for the statement being made and is an appropriate source for that content."


 * If somebody argues this article lacks independent sources, then he should proof that for all given sources. --Jobo44 (talk) 13:58, 25 April 2013 (UTC) — Jobo44 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * WP:BURDEN indicates that the burden of proof is on the editor that makes the claims of notability. 204.126.132.231 (talk) 14:20, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
 * You only get to !vote once Jobo44. Mkdw talk 21:17, 29 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete No evidence of notability. The emphasis on the single quote used in the reception section "Aiki Peace Week is an excellent idea. —M. Tani, International Department, Hombu Dojo, Aikido World Headquarters, e-mail of June 4, 2010, to the IAPW organizing committee. " indicates the lack of available independent sourcing.  DGG ( talk ) 17:26, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete I didn't find significant independent coverage of this event. Papaursa (talk) 21:42, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete The single purpose editors and the event organizer who have !voted keep (sometimes more than once) have not provided compelling guideline based arguments as to why this event meets GNG and RS. Mkdw talk 21:17, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
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