Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/International Festival of the Humor of Bordighera


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete, with no prejudice towards translating the Italian Wikipedia article and adding it here. — Kurykh  22:20, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

International Festival of the Humor of Bordighera

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Unsourced since November. The festival is really the Bordighera Festival of Comedy and Humor Films, and only ran from 1955 to 1964. Only a couple of IMDB listings under that name via Google. That puts notability in serious doubt. DarkAudit 22:33, 23 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Oppose: according to the Italian Wikipedia article it:Salone Internazionale dell'Umorismo di Bordighera it ran from 1947 to 1999. The shorter-lived film festival was a only one part of it. —Ian Spackman 22:51, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment If an award can make one notable certainly an award can be notable. The internationalness of the award/festival seems to lend some notability as well. ~ Infrangible 03:10, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Oppose: deserves a little article. --Attilios 10:58, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete It only gave out two awards? Over thirty years ago? And one source is iMDB, which is not-notability asserting, and the other one is in Italian, but it looks like a website for one of the award winners. Not notability asserting. i   (said)  (did) 20:59, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete & Request Translation of Italian article. As it stands, the current article content does not establish notability. The Italian article has more content, but it is also without references.  The suggestion here is to start with a clean slate - drop the current English Wikipedia version, request translation of the Italian version, then re-judge the article on the merits of the expanded content. --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 01:12, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. An article should not be kept if it has no sources. I scanned through the Italian article, and it's mildly interesting but has no sources either. I would accept that an award might get some prestige from having notable recipients, provided the recipients mention the award. I checked the IMDB entry for I soliti ignoti, one of the films honored, and even that entry doesn't list the award the film got from this festival. EdJohnston 02:48, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment I know what you mean about sourcelessness: it is an absolute pain to edit articles which don’t have them. But would it be a good idea to delete all Wikipedia articles which didn’t yet have them? The thing clearly existed for half a century and a simple google search reveals that recipients of the awards are distinctly keen to mention the fact. And let us not get bogged down in imdb because it was not primarily to do with film. Seems to me to be a highly undeveloped stub about something perfectly encyclopedic. Why not let it remain as a stub? —Ian Spackman 11:33, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment This is persuasive. I would agree if the article had only recently been created and/or only recently tagged requesting supporting references.  However, looking at the history of the article, tags requesting expansion and references have been in place since October 2006.  I am generally opposed to deleting topics (as opposed to specific content) that are encylcopedic and without sources; however, the lengthy period without enhancement suggests that an alternative path is needed ... which I've suggested above in my opinion. --User:Ceyockey ( talk to me ) 11:47, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that’s also persuasive—and I could get out my dictionary and translate the article. But it would remain unsourced and pretty much as liable to deletion as the current one. That doesn’t encourage me to get out my dictionary, particularly because the genres of animated and printed cartoons, which seem to be the main focus of the festival, are things I enjoy but don’t know anything about. I would prefer reducing it to a stub—I hope we can all agree that it existed!—and waiting for someone who is keen and knowledgable about these things to come along. They will, sooner or later, and stubs are good: they are pre-charged with a lot of the grunt-work in doing wiki-linking and categorising that makes Wikipedia a bit formidable to the newcomer. —Ian Spackman 12:14, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.