Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/International Relations Center


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Interhemispheric Resource Center. The article's subject is found to lack notability. &mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  beans  // 06:46, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

International Relations Center

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Organization appears not to exist. Page was created in 2007 by a user who was blocked long ago. It has no sources. The link given on page for this International Relations Center is dead. When i search for "International Relations Center" a number of pages come up, including the Centro de Relaciones Internacionales but not a Center matching the description on this page. Some of the hits on a search of "International Relations Center" + "New Mexico" go to dead links (http://meldi.snre.umich.edu/node/17509) although this one:  seems to indicate that the place once existed. As does this one:, and this one:. However, I can find no indication that it still exists, nor sources to establish that it was notable. A search on google books does get some hits:, including one indicating that the Center was associated with "Tom Barry", probably: Tom Barry (political analyst):, himself a political activist of questionable notability. E.M.Gregory (talk) 03:25, 11 January 2016 (UTC)


 * STRONG delete - This is clearly some sort of vandal or single-authorship article. The fact that it's managed to stay on Wikipedia for this long baffles me. Parsley Man (talk) 03:38, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions.  sst  ✈  05:28, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New Mexico-related deletion discussions.  sst  ✈  05:28, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete - The external links appear to be extremely dodgy to me. There are no references and nil news coverage of this "organization".  CatcherStorm    talk   06:06, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. The Library of Congress considered it worthwhile archiving their website. Unquestionably a real organization that existed from 1979 to 2008. If an organization was ever notable, its going out of existence surely never justifies a deletion of an article. So some of the reasons given above seem bizarre. "Not existing now" is not a reason, nor is "created by a user who was later blocked." Nor is "single authorship," which goes for thousands of articles. Certainly it's no vandalism. The only question is whether this former organization is notable. Google searches in that regard should include the former name Interhemispheric Resource Center (incidentally another article exists under that title, which should be deleted too if this one is, or else redirected). Here is a source that seems reliable enough:, which I think establishes sufficient notability by the prevailing standards. Thousands of books seem to refer to the organization: . Mewulwe (talk) 14:08, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks to User:Mewulwe, for finding this: [] reliable source establishing that the Interhemispheric Resource Center existed form 1979 until 2008.  There are not, however, "thousands" of hits on google books for "International Relations Center", here:, such a search, which I did run, comes up with pages of hits on other uses of these three words. ("Some of the main intellectual challenges in the study of international relations center on international security, beginning with the study of...")   Even under the name "Interhemispheric Resource Center" there only about 5 pages of hits, some of which are mere listings (for example, The Internship Bible; Evolving Internet Reference Resources, Vault Guide to Internships and the like).  Even the google book hits that look solid at first blush, such as this:  (Waltzing with the Raptors: A Practical Roadmap to Protecting Your Company's Reputation) in fact merely reprints the center's own self-description: "Our projects reflect our beliefs that..." .  Another, Global Focus: U.S. Foreign Policy at the Turn of the Millennium is authored by Tom Barry and thus not independent. Others are Center publications, and citations of reports the Center published. This would not suffice if the Center were still extant, but perhaps it is sufficient to keep page on a defunct center.   Seeking something more persuasive of notability, I ran an news archive search on Proquest, and finally came up with something. A news story from  27 Feb 2000 that ran in the  Albuquerque Journal, "Chomsky Chides Corporations, Government in City Speech".   "Chomsky was in Albuquerque to speak at the 20th anniversary celebration of the Interhemispheric Resource Center, a foreign- policy watchdog group based in New Mexico. Chomsky, a faculty member at Massachusetts Institute of Technology, is on the resource center's board of directors."  I think we can redirect this to the article on the Interhemispheric Resource Center and source it to this article in the Albuquerque Journal.E.M.Gregory (talk) 17:48, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Redirect as noted by DGG below. Draft and userfy at best for now if there's enough sourcing to make a better article until set for mainspace again. SwisterTwister   talk  08:00, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Draft until enough reliable sources are found. I did a quick search and didn't find enough information to warrant an article but i suspect something might come up with thorough research.  → Call me  Razr   Nation  06:10, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, &mdash; Coffee //  have a cup  //  beans  // 16:34, 19 January 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — UY Scuti Talk  17:52, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
 * ''Redirect/merge to Inerhemispheric Resource Center,] as suggested; If Chomsky was on the Board, there will be sources, but it'll take a manual search.  DGG ( talk ) 01:22, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment' - If there cannot be a clear consensus here, I would appreciate if this were relisted a third and last time. SwisterTwister   talk  01:59, 3 February 2016 (UTC)


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