Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/International broadcasters for 24 (TV series)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Delete per WP:NOT#DIRECTORY. Until ( 1 == 2 )  07:13, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

International broadcasters for 24 (TV series)

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per Avoid statements that will date quickly and WP:NOT#DIRECTORY (which specificly says Wikipedia is not an electronic program guide). This article changes constantly (each country's entry changing perhaps once per year minimum), and can never become encyclopedic. edg ☺ ★ 00:37, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOT#DIRECTORY and changes to often. Oysterguitarist 01:35, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and oyster. --Golbez 02:17, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Very slight merge into 24 (TV series) with just the countries and networks, not the translated titles, the start dates, and especially not the day and time of broadcast. If that doesn't work for everyone, then as a second choice just delete it. --Metropolitan90 03:19, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
 * If we were to do this, why exclude the translated titles? / edg ☺ ★ 08:02, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge per Metropolitan90 and the WP:CSB policy for "worldwide view" for articles, as I'd imagine that including the international broadcasters list is pretty much the closest way for the article for 24 to have a "worldwide view". --Andrewlp1991 03:27, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
 * We don't include a list of booksellers in Pakistan to buy Harry Potter, nor do we include what stores in Japan are best to buy a Wii from; why should we tell people where in Romania they can watch 24? No, this has nothing to do with a 'worldwide view'. --Golbez 04:43, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, the ISBN function (try it!) links to booksellers throughout the world. But Wikipedia still is not TV Guide. / edg ☺ ★ 04:58, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia would be a TV guide only if the list were formatted like one; it would be an encyclopedic list if it, as Metropolitan90 just mentioned, simply included the countries & networks that ever aired the series and for which period of time, not including the day & tie of broadcast. But if not everyone agrees, as M said, then delete it. But the problem is, purging every "int'l broadcasters" section of every Wikipedia article of TV shows that have aired outside of their respective country would be a daunting task, given the number of TV shows that are broadcast worldwide. That was why I prefer merging, as it is proof that 24 is broadcast worldwide. It's the truth. In addition, the lists would require footnotes to ensure they are correct, otherwise "unsourced" info would be omitted. What's really more important here, making sure this article isn't a directory or that 24 meets WP:CSB? The points that M90 and I made will ensure that inclusion of such lists will meet both WP:NOT and WP:CSB. --Andrewlp1991 17:31, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't see how merging this information is a less daunting task than deleting it. And I'm not confident that detailed lists of every network that has ever run a TV show is worth including in the article for that show. (Tho Wikipedia does now seem to allow a lot more TV minutia than it did even a year ago.) / edg ☺ ★ 03:34, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete unencyclopediac list-- Sef rin gle Talk 07:04, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Information is nessecary. --SU182 11:40, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * To whom? --Golbez 16:17, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Since this is the English Wikipedia, and English is spoken in many nations outside the United States and Canada, the two largest markets where 24 is broadcast, I suppose at least we could include the list of broadcasters at least for English-speaking countries. Just don't include the actual weekly broadcast times, or else this it'd be an electronic program guide. Also, please refer to WP:CSB. In the case of the article for Family Guy, which has also seen similar problem with its broadcasters' section, it had its broadcasters section watered down to "seen internationally". --Andrewlp1991 19:32, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Generally, when I want to know where to obtain media, Wikipedia is not the first place that comes to mind. --Golbez 22:25, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. There's been a lot of precedent for these lists to be deleted, I've seen several nomnated for deletion in the last ew months and I don't remember any of them surviving. Crazysuit 04:36, 23 July 2007 (UTC)


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