Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Interstate 75 rock-throwing death


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The result was keep.  Sandstein  17:58, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

Interstate 75 rock-throwing death

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No evidence that this is any more than just a run of the mill crime (see WP:MURDEROF. Multiple crimes as this have occurred over the years, including others on I-75. Refs are typical news reports, not indicative of this case being any more notable. Bneu2013 (talk) 07:18, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep on a combination of WP:PROFESSOR, (which she does not quite meet, but comes close,) and WP:NCRIME - which I think this article does pass. The professor who was killed, although young, had a attained degree of impact in her field that has caused her work to continue to be cited and to be revisited, most recently in a 2017 book, Educational Leadership and Music: Lessons for Tomorrow’s School Leaders,.  More to the point, the crime itself was not treated as "routine," it got SUSTAINED coverage that had GEOSCOPE, in part because one of the defendants fled, but mostly just due to public outrage at the senseless behavior of stone throwing from highway overpasses that kills people.   Note that with a 20-year-old crime editors will need to have access to news archives to view the extent, depth, and ongoing nature of the coverage.E.M.Gregory (talk) 10:34, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Note also that we have Category:Deaths by rocks thrown at cars.E.M.Gregory (talk) 10:36, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Actually, looking at the stuff that comes up when you click: Find sources: "Julie Laible" scholar, she may meet WP:PROFESSOR, despite having been killed when she was quite a young professor.E.M.Gregory (talk) 15:54, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
 * This might mean the article should be about the professor, not the event. Bneu2013 (talk) 08:01, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
 * It might. Adding this to AfD lists. E.M.Gregory (talk) 09:55, 18 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep there seems to be enough WP:RS sources to satisfy WP:GNG. AadaamS (talk) 17:18, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. E.M.Gregory (talk) 09:55, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions.E.M.Gregory (talk) 09:55, 18 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep - enough for WP:RS to satisfy WP:GNG.BabbaQ (talk) 10:52, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep - National level coverage. + some authorship of works by deceased and mentions of her in works by others, e.g. .Icewhiz (talk) 11:13, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment. Very sad incident, but not remotely a pass of WP:Prof: WP:Too soon. Xxanthippe (talk) 11:22, 18 July 2018 (UTC).
 * While I accept that the dead professor did not quite meet WP:PROFESSOR, this does not negate the fact that this murder meets WP:NCRIME and passes WP:SIGCOV.E.M.Gregory (talk) 15:11, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   09:24, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
 * WP:HEY I have tweaked, expanded, and added souring to article to show that that the WP:INDEPTH, WP:GEOSCOPE, WP:LASTING, WP:PERSISTENCE, and WP:DIVERSE sourcing on this  WP:NCRIME meets WP:EVENTCRITERIA as well as WP:SIGCOV.  Note that much more coverage can be found in searches using diverse mixtures of terms, such as: "university of Alabama" + professor + overpass + rock.E.M.Gregory (talk) 15:05, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep: a fairly unusual crime; meets WP:LASTING. K.e.coffman (talk) 03:52, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep based on the credible claim of notability substantiated by dozens of reliable and verifiable sources about the incident demonstrating that this is much more than a run-of-the-mill crime., what ambiguity is there about community consensus to keep this article? Alansohn (talk) 16:15, 30 July 2018 (UTC)


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