Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Invesdor


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The result was   no consensus. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:02, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Invesdor

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The article currently has no independent and reliable sources and there is no evidence of notability WP:COMPANY. I am One of Many (talk) 06:58, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Kauppalehti and Talouselämä are both reputable Finnish business-related newspapers, and Arctic Startup is a major source of information on startups in the Nordic and Baltic regions. The major source of notability is the fact that Invesdor is currently the only open equity-based crowdfunding platform in Northern Europe. I think that in order for Wikipedia to provide an accurate view on European crowdfunding it is necessary to introduce some key market players (CrowdCube, FundedByMe, Symbid, Seedrs, and Invesdor).Savolmi (talk) 13:02, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Being the only business of its type isn't a source of notability because notability comes only from "significant coverage in reliable sources independent of the subject" – see WP:GNG for more details. The coverage in the newspapers is a much better argument, as long as it is independent and not, for example, based heavily on press-releases. Dricherby (talk) 16:06, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I see. That is good feedback. I appreciate it. I'll see if I can further improve the article. Any other issues I should be focusing on? Savolmi (talk) 16:47, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
 * This is a bit off-topic for the AfD so I'll reply on Savolmi's talk page. Dricherby (talk) 17:28, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Finland-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:14, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:14, 1 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Theopolisme ( talk )  15:57, 8 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep Yes, it's a very young company and coverage is a bit thin, but there is quite a bit of notability evident and unless it closes up or is acquired there is certain to be more substantial coverage going forward. I think we have to use our good judgment here. Candleabracadabra (talk) 16:40, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
 * There seems to be increasing amounts of coverage in business-related publications, but not in more general newspapers – at least not to my knowledge. Crowdfunding in general has really yet to take off in Finland, because only fairly recent legislation changes made it a viable option for entrepreneurs. I believe it's only a matter of time before the general media will pick up on crowdfunding, though. And when that happens, Funded by Me and Invesdor will most likely be featured more in general-circulation newspapers in Finland and the Nordic countries in general. Savolmi (talk) 07:53, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Candleabracadabra, I don't understand. "Coverage is a bit thin" means that there aren't many sources; "quite a bit of notability" means that there are plenty of sources. Which is it? Please indicate which sources you think indicate notability: it's not helpful to just say "it's notable". Dricherby (talk) 07:18, 16 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete Based on what I can read with Google translate, the coverage is mainly press releases -- some, like //www.kauppaleht, are even indicated as such right at the top. &#39;DGG (at NYPL) (talk) 16:50, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't know the inner processes of the newspapers in question, so I can't really comment on how they make their articles. I am however fluent in Finnish, and I can find no mention of press releases related to these articles on Kauppalehti.fi. These articles are in the "Own Company news" (loose translation) section, which is a section of the paper targeted at entrepreneurs and for general news articles on individual businesses and industries. There is a "press releases" tab on the row of different sections, but that's unrelated to the issue at hand. Savolmi (talk) 07:53, 10 July 2013 (UTC)


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 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, czar   &middot;   &middot;  18:19, 15 July 2013 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.