Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ioana Spangenberg


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The result was   delete. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:31, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Ioana Spangenberg

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I'd say this falls under WP:BLP1E. Yes, the woman has gotten plenty of coverage in recent days, mostly in the "odd news" section. But she has only garnered attention for one event, news of her unusually small waist. WP:PERSISTENCE also applies: "a burst or spike of news reports does not automatically make an incident notable. Events that are only covered in sources published during or immediately after an event, without further analysis or discussion, are likely not suitable for an encyclopedia article". We don't have further analysis or discussion, and it somehow seems unlikely that more will be said on this topic, although we could recreate if we get it wrong. She also fails WP:PORNBIO criterion 4 ("Has been featured multiple times in notable mainstream media"): this seems to imply multiple reports over a period of time, which haven't taken place. - Biruitorul Talk 15:49, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Delete - nom must be right, this is going to be short-lived fame indeed. BLP1E. Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:37, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Disclosure: I created this stub article after I read about her in the news, then discovered no article in Wikipedia about her. To the nominator (Biruitorul): it is poor form for you to nominate the article for deletion without informing me. Anyway, the basis of her notability is not "an event". Therefore I do not believe that BLP1E is applicable. I have no idea why Biruitorul is quoting WP:PORNBIO. It is completely irrelevant. In summary: Reliable references here establish notability. Keep. Axl ¤  [Talk]  17:22, 9 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete I may be cynical on this point, but the girl will have to actually do something other than mutilate her body to get a wikipedia article. This is simply a novelty item, not compliant, at this stage at least, with our policies on biographies. Dahn (talk) 18:29, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fashion-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 01:29, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 01:29, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

It is extremenly rare to see such a thing - no website will keep record of this. There have only been a handful of women over time who were this small - and healthy (think what you will about her 'beauty or lack of'. This woman claims to be 100% natural - no modifications...  There are others into 'extreme corset piercing' - some like Cathie Jung ( Guinness World Record holder 2011 SMALLEST WAIST IN THE WORLD ON A LIVING PERSON!) wear Corsets their entire life and purposefully change the shape of their bodies - by squeezing their internal organs into new and different positions so that they can look very 'waspy' (I believe that is the term used-though it needs checked) http://www.cathiejung.com/   or http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/smallest-waist-living-person/

There should be a topic that describes this process and some of the famous people who covet the look. I'm not sure that each individual person should have their own page - but I'm sure a page with a variety of them could be created. =I am against deleting any information from Wikepedia - especially information that is not gathered and displayed anywhere else. 139.55.250.214 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   06:26, 18 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete. There's no current pages about this that would be appropriate to redirect to (corset body modification, Guinness world record holders, etc) and even if there were, I'm not sure that she would be appropriate to be added to them. Spangenberg did not achieve her small waist due to corseting and it just wouldn't be appropriate to add her to an article about body modification. As far as the "one person one event" argument, the policy extends to cover people who have only gained notice for one thing or feature about them. Other than a handful of articles about her thin frame, there's nothing out there to show that she has any lasting notability at this point in time. I don't have any issues with the article creator userfying the page, though. I doubt very seriously that she will ever be able to pass WP:BIO, though.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 08:18, 18 February 2012 (UTC)tokyogirl79
 * Delete per BLP1E, not notable enough for a biography. Might merit a mention in some suitable article.  henrik  • talk  09:51, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
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