Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ion Göttlich


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was soft delete. WP:REFUND applies. After two weeks of discussion there seems to be a great deal of ambivalence here. There are no clear comments favoring either keeping or deleting the page beyond that of the OP. I am treating this as a de-facto Prod. Ad Orientem (talk) 03:58, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

Ion Göttlich

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The topic of this article does not meet Wikipedia's general notability guideline. --ChristlicheMorgenröte (talk) 09:22, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Cycling-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 18:05, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Italy-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 18:25, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 18:25, 8 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep 2 of the 4 (Bicycling and Eurosport) sources seem to pass the general notability guideline   OxonAlex    - talk  18:41, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Have to admit this was a misinformed vote, before properly reading the sources. On the fence at the moment, as it only has one source meeting GNG.  OxonAlex    - talk  19:31, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Eurosport does not state anything factual about this subject at all, though. It's only use would be as a source for false information.  Uncle G (talk) 19:37, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment. Quite honestly, it reads like a hoax. Very dubious, to say the least. I'd like to see what other more experienced editors say about this before I commit myself. No Great Shaker (talk) 19:14, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Of the 4 sources currently in the article, only 1 is actually factual, the Bicycling one. The others are fiction, fictional stuff about this fictional character.  The factual one is not a passing mention, either, but specifically about the creation and reception of this fictional character.  To satisfy the PNC, I maintain that multiple such sources are the goal. Uncle G (talk) 19:37, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment the sources must discuss it in the context of Göttlich being fiction, and must as such be from an out of universe perspective in order to establish notability. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 21:48, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 20:19, 15 August 2019 (UTC)


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