Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Iqbal Sacranie


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   Keep. Consensus that there is coverage of the subject which satisfies the general notability guideline, also reference towards him having received a significant honour. WilliamH (talk) 14:54, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Iqbal Sacranie

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This subject is not the subject of in-depth reliable coverage by multiple third party sources (WP:BASIC). Multiple reliable sources have given this subject some coverage because of his position at the Muslim Council of Britain, including controversial remarks while in an leadership position at the Muslim Council of Britain, namely in regards to homosexuals. I don't think this actually amounts to coverage of this subject, but rather coverage of remarks made by a knighted leader of the Muslim Council of Britain. The coverage and controversy inure notability to the organization. Assuming, though, that this subject does pass WP:GNG on the basis of his controversy alone, we're left with essentially a WP:BLP that's negative or an attack, with no real biographical material available once unsourced and trivial information is removed. If it helps, WP:GNG might establish a threshold for articles, but it does not require articles for everyone who passes for any reason at all. JFHJr (㊟) 01:53, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Muslim Council of Britain. He's already mentioned there. I also note that the current Secretary of the Council does not have his own article.--Bbb23 (talk) 03:05, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
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 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Armbrust, B.Ed. Let's talk about my edits? 12:05, 15 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep. Very significant figure in the UK, has been covered in the media many times, and to cap it all has been knighted, which easily meets WP:BIO: "The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor". It has always been held in every AfD I've seen that a knighthood certainly meets this criterion. Anyone considered significant enough for the honour of knighthood (only about 100 of them are conferred every year) is certainly significant enough for an article on Wikipedia. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:59, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
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 * Keep. Very notable figure in the UK in his own right. Very frequently in the media on numerous issues, not just for one silly off-the-cuff remark about homosexuality. I'm surprised this article is this short, because there's loads of stuff that could be written about him from reliable sources. Chris Neville-Smith (talk) 18:09, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment – Where are the multiple reliable sources by third parties giving in-depth coverage to this subject, as opposed to his organization or his position? You assert he is very notable, and that "loads of stuff" could be written from reliable sources, but what sources? Without giving examples of this coverage, your !vote looks a bit like just vouching for it; WP:ASSERTN. JFHJr (㊟) 19:00, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Here's this for starters. I've got 1,329 other GNews article to pick from, so let me know when you've had enough. Chris Neville-Smith (talk) 08:16, 23 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Muslim Council of Britain. He is already sufficiently mentioned there and, as someone noted above, the serving Chairman does not have his own article.GorgeCustersSabre (talk) 13:13, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
 * This is the opposite of WP:OTHERSTUFF. The fact that current chair of the MCB doesn't have a wiki article doesn't necessarily prove anything more than no-one having got round to writing the article yet. (No-one, for instance, would argue Eric Morcambe wasn't notable because there wasn't an article on Ernie Wise, otherwise we'd have never written articles on either.) Also, Iqbal Sacranie was in the public eye for more than his successor, because in the aftermath of the 7/7 bombs, he was thrust into the public eye as the face of moderate Islam in the UK. Just because two people held the same position at some point doesn't make them equally notable - how many people would argue Nigel Farage was equally notable as Alan Sked? Chris Neville-Smith (talk) 09:59, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep. His statements have been covered in media (meets WP:GNG) and he has been knighted per Necrothesp (meets WP:BIO). Not sure how it violates WP:BLP, doesn't look like an attack at all. A412  (Talk * C) 18:58, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep as an obvious pass of WP:ANYBIO. If a knighthood isn't a well-known and significant award or honour then I don't know what is. Phil Bridger (talk) 19:12, 22 January 2012 (UTC)


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