Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Iran–United States proxy conflict


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The result was delete. ✗ plicit  03:18, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

Iran–United States proxy conflict

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Taking from my removed PROD, "A completely fabricated creation consisting nothing but OR and SYNTH alleging such conflict between Iran and the United States. Not a single source backs up such a conflict because it does not exist. This is taking material from Iran–Saudi Arabia proxy conflict and Iran–Israel proxy conflict articles."

The creator has a history of adding OR and SYNTH in the Iran-Saudia Arabia article and this is the biggest addition of OR and SYNTH of his. Quite a number of sources are from opinion pieces which are not reliable to a degree unless it's quoting a certain aspect of relation to the article. Such as a quote. But there aren't quotes of individuals cited that I've seen.

There is no such proxy conflict between Iran and the United States. Both countries are on opposite sides of various conflicts, but that doesn't mean there is a proxy war/conflict happening or has happened since November 4, 1979, the date of the Iran hostage crisis. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:09, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Another major issue is the belligerents in the infobox. How is it possible that Albania is on the side of the U.S. by upgrading ties with Turkey to strategic partnership? The only mention of this proxy conflict is a link to another article, both of these on TRT World's website. TRT World may not be credible, although I'm not sure of it's use as a reliable source, it is funded by the Turkish Radio and Television Corporation, which is owned by the Turkish government. So state-run media is not credible which it can be considered.

Sections within the article have no relation to the main subject. 2006 Lebanon war, 2008 Lebanon conflict, and 2009 Hezbollah-Egypt incident make no mention of U.S. involvement nor do two of these three articles. The 2006 war article makes mention of the U.S. but mainly of its support of Israel and statements and resolution passed by Congress and government officials in response to the conflict. So there is no connection or proof of such a conflict. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 17:20, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Military, Iran,  and United States of America. Shellwood (talk) 16:12, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bilateral relations-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 16:27, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose There are multiple sources that states that there is in fact an American-Iranian conflict since 1979. Plus they fight each other throughout all these mentioned comments. Plus for a 12 year old like me, I dont know these stuff. yet. This is no OR or Synth, this reliable.Mausebru the Peruvian (talk, contibs) 17:22, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Comment This is speedy keep.Mausebru the Peruvian (talk, contibs) 17:22, 8 May 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:47, 15 May 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:47, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete: There is no such thing as a proxy conflict between Iran and the United States. No news agency, newspaper or encyclopedia describes the incidents between them as a proxy conflict. There is an article in the name of Iran–United States relations after 1979. There is little point in gathering sources about attacks and incidents between the two countries and creating an unfounded naming. In the event that articles of this type are repeatedly created, I suggest protecting them.--Sakiv (talk) 18:05, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete: The article is biased as hell too. SpinnerLaserzthe2nd (talk) 03:09, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete or Merge with 2019–2021 Persian Gulf crisis: This is pure OR and SYNTH as argued by WikiCleanerMan. Pahlevun (talk) 08:28, 18 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete This is going on since 1979, but there are already so many articles that we don't need a broad article about it. Though a disambiguation can be still tolerated. Agletarang (talk) 13:19, 20 May 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.