Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Iran-United States relations timeline by leader


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was draftify There seems to be a consensus that this material is not fit for mainspace. If folks want to work on it and submit it through AFC or to merge material in it to Iran–United States relations, they are free to do so. Deor (talk) 20:55, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Iran-United States relations timeline by leader

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This is some weird fork of or variation on Iran–United States relations, which has a very extensive chronological history of the relations between the two countries.

This new "timeline by leader" though has a series of "events" which have in many cases nothing to do with the US or Iran-US relations, and adds nothing to the already existing article. At best, if some completely different contents are meant, it belongs in draft. Otherwise it is better simply deleted. Fram (talk) 16:08, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. Fram (talk) 16:08, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. Fram (talk) 16:08, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Iran-related deletion discussions. Fram (talk) 16:08, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
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Comment all of timeline's in wikipedia created after a main articles like Timeline of the 2020 United States presidential election so there is 2020 United States presidential election.--Reza Amper (talk) 15:31, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
 * keep Someone put in a lot of time into this and with somewhat supporting sources. I dont see why we should not keep. Peter303x (talk) 21:23, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete This is not an article, it just compares List of presidents of Iran and List of presidents of the United States. The events should be discussed at Iran–United States relations. Unclear how much time was actually put into this since it's half a translation of a page on the Persian Wikipedia, but that absolutely not a basis for keeping a page. Reywas92Talk 21:41, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. The US didn't even pay much attention to Iran until when? World War II? Clarityfiend (talk) 08:23, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I fixed the timeline a little. is there any hope or any advice to change your ideas if I work on this timeline?--Reza Amper (talk) 15:41, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Draftify immediately and then go through AFC. This article has many sections in non-English text, and many citation errors. It should not have been created in this form in article space. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:58, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete or draftify -- Before re-uploading, it should have all Persian text translated and the pictures eliminated. If are to have a time-line article, it will be in the nature of a list article which is designed as a navigation aid.  The pictures are cluttering up the article.  Rulers' names and dates might remain - but we only need years, not precise dates.  The title should be Iran-United States relations timeline.  Peterkingiron (talk) 15:09, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge with Iran–United States relations. Any relevant information on this page can be covered in prose on that page. KidAd   talk  22:17, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Weak keep. Assuming good faith for people who created this page (I can not check sources on Farsi), this is valid supplementary list to page Iran–United States relations. Obviously, it can not and should not be merged to page Iran–United States relations which is already pretty big. The list per se is seems to be interesting and illustrative, at least for someone poorly familiar with US history as myself. But this is only assuming that the info and referencing are correct. My very best wishes (talk) 17:47, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   10:12, 23 January 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   22:27, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete the "events" column could be considered a WP:POVFORK of Iran-United States relations. The main article lists the names of the persons involved during various phases of Iran-US relations so the list, while interesting, adds nothing. --LaserLegs (talk) 12:08, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge with Iran–United States relations. There is clearly some good and useful information here but presented in the wrong way. Having a separate article might help with the WP:SIZE of the original, though, so there could be reason to discuss this further after AfD. doktorb wordsdeeds 08:34, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete I agree with the reasons stated in the nomination. This is exactly just a series of "some populer events" which have in many cases nothing to do Iran-US relations. I do believe this is also not a traceable list that lacks showing to future editors "what to add for what". --Kemalcan (talk) 12:30, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete you could create the same article for any pair of countries, what makes Iran and US special? Mr248 (talk) 11:41, 8 February 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.