Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Iran: Hot Tea, Cool Conversations


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The result was no consensus. North America1000 02:27, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Iran: Hot Tea, Cool Conversations

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The movie is non-notable independent movie and part of the family allied advertisement in the Wikipedia (i.e. Brienne Ghafourifar, Entefy and Mehdi Ghafourifar. 08:55, 20 December 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arashtitan (talk • contribs) 08:55, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - Article is very clearly written promotionally, along with being un-notable.  CatcherStorm  talk   09:32, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
 * A recent film like this would a decent chance at garnering WP:RS, especially since Iran remains a hot-button issue. There is one in the article, the feature story on page 5 of the Spartan Daily university newspaper (you can scroll down to the read it). It says the film "had only one showing in a theater" and "This movie is expected to go straight to DVD." Even direct-to-DVD films have to meet NFILM, and this one doesn't seem to. A notable DVD production that presented Iran in a less hostile light might be expected to garnered coverage from, say, alternative media—but not this one. Now, there is the possibility we're missing Persian language coverage. This film does seem squarely aimed at the US market, but I suppose Farsi coverage is a possibility. For that reason I'm holding off !voting at this time. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:50, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:53, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Iran-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:53, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Shawn in Montreal I have already checked its Persian coverage and most certainly it is not distributed whether on theaters or DVD neither aired on the broadcasting channels in Iran. Arashtitan  talk  16:48, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. With that, I'll move to delete. If anyone has evidence to the contrary, please ping me. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 17:02, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep Additionally, through my research, I was able to find more screenings in archives: Centralia College in Washington State, Fresno State
 * In conclusion, highly unusual documentaries of this type do receive alternative independent coverage.Wheysted (talk) 06:07, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Please note that this article in no way references Brienne Ghafourifar. It references Mehdi Ghafourifar because he is in fact the executive producer. The article contains no sales language and even adjectives formerly used to describe the movie have been removed.Wheysted (talk) 05:55, 21 December 2015 (UTC)


 * I don't see anything above that would make me change my mind on notability. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:16, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Weak keep per coverage in such as Payvand and Efylakas (Greek). Documentaries rarely have the same level of coverage as do mainstream films. A redirect with partial merge to Mehdi Ghafourifar is also suitable.  If kept, tone and format need to brought into line with MOS:FILM.  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 13:21, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep: Keep but improve the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Garagepunk66 (talk • contribs) 00:59, 23 December 2015
 * Some good finds by MichaelQSchmidt. I've struck through my !vote above, reverting to neutral. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:11, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 00:17, 28 December 2015 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 00:46, 5 January 2016 (UTC)


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