Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Iranian Air Force C-130 crash in Tehran


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was speedy keep. &mdash;Cryptic (talk) 16:12, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Iranian Air Force C-130 crash in Tehran
This is a news story. It is more fitting on WikiNews than it is on Wikipedia.

Snowfalcon 23:00, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Strong keep. Wikipedia has more than 40 air disaster articles already, and hundreds more listed on List of disasters. I don't think we can keep advertising ourselves as the "sum of all human knowledge" if we delete articles like this. If we delete this, are we going to delete all the other plane crashes, many with much smaller number of lives lost? After the news has faded on the news article, it should be part of Wikipedia, in my opinion.


 * Strong Keep. The case is still open and most important not done. Root cause is not revealed yet.--Sina 23:07, 8 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Keep. Agree with reasons stated above; encyclopedias do contain items that were news at the time they occurred. How can we arbitrarily set an age for news stories to become encylopedic? 00:50, 9 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Strong keep. This is perhaps the worst peace time military aircraft accident of 2005. In this crash, a significant percentage of casualties were journalists which makes this notable by that alone. This is very much an encyclopedia material. -- Revth 01:08, 9 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Strong keep. ّAs per above. Kaveh 01:26, 9 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Keep - Unless you want to delete the sinking info for the Titanic and other newscruft ;) Zotel - the Stub Maker 02:06, 9 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Keep - This has got to be one of the largest attacks on journalists ever. Alyblaith 02:12, 9 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Strong keep and strace IP and send airplains. Kidding. --Striver 02:35, 9 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Strong keep this is history, that is what encyclopedias should document. --mexaguil 05:19, 9 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Keep - While I truly do not believe that disasters are encyclopedic when then happen, they can become such in time. But since the article is already here, I wouldn't delete it. Generally, I would recommend that such things be done in Wikinews and after time (perhaps 6 months), be considered to be moved over to the wikipedia. Mjchonoles 05:44, 9 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Strong keep, as with all other notable disasters and events, encyclopedia renditions serve to compile all linked events into proper reading, and are useful for better analysing the incident. ╫ 25 ring-a-ding  08:56, 9 December 2005 (UTC) ╫


 * Strong keep. Absolutely. Even after it's all done being news, it will remain an event, however minor in the grand scheme of things, in Tehran's history. New Yorkers, after all, still remember the fighter plane that crashed into the Empire State Building in 1945, and rightfully consider it part of the city's history. And it looks to me like the sentiment in favor of not deleting this entry is pretty much unanimous. So can we end discussion and just keep, already?--Brent 08:55, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: So can we end discussion and just keep, already?
 * I think that proper vfd procedure should be followed. Wait a couple more days till it's closed


 * Keep. Nothing to do with sentiment, but there's been other articles on air dissasters. Project2501a 10:31, 9 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Strong Keep I helped make some of this article (added a picture, added wikinews template, footnotes). It would be silly to remove it, Wikipedia already has dozens of news stories. Tragic events should be in encyclopedias, its part of history. — Wackymacs 14:34, 9 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Keep. But I reckon the page should be followed up with technical details on the crash investigation later on when they become available, to make it more fitting on Wikipedia. CW 14:55, 9 December 2005 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.