Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Iranian boxers at the 1958 Asian Games


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   merge to Iran at the 1958 Asian Games. Mkdw talk 22:20, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Iranian boxers at the 1958 Asian Games

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No need for separate articles like this. We do not have other articles of this kind, someone made this one only because he is interested or related to one of the athletes (Hassan Pakandam) in this list. Mohsen1248 (talk) 03:07, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. lavender|(formerlyHMSSolent|lambast 03:49, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Iran-related deletion discussions. lavender|(formerlyHMSSolent|lambast 03:49, 4 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Delete I agree with the nominators rational.  There already is Boxing at the 1958 Asian Games and Iran at the 1958 Asian Games and this seems to be nothing more than overkill.  Any novel information should more properly be inserted into the latter article which itself could do with a bit of text rather than listing of results.   To be fair in the contest to the original PROD the author mentioned 2012 United States men's Olympic basketball team as precedent.  Still I don't think its quite the same with basketball article clearly demonstrating notability.Peter Rehse (talk) 09:36, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Notable, but doesn't really need it's own page. Constance Lahaye (talk) 10:04, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Merge the prose to Iran_at_the_1958_Asian_Games.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 17:45, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep This article has the same situation as 2012 United States men's Olympic basketball team, since there is an article on Basketball in the 2012 Olympics and United States in the 2012 Olympics there are many other similar articles to these. The Iranian Boxing Team at the 1958 Asian Games which did not change mainly for about a decade were the first to participate in an Asian grand tournament leading the way for Iranian Boxing to find its way in the Asian tournaments after Tokyo 1958, as a basis for Iran Boxing to be counted as a known force in Asia laying the foundation of many obtained medals and achievements after 1958. The new Iranian and Asian generation have a right to obtain a minimum information through an online encyclopedic source; such as Wikipedia, on the mentioned team and its participants, which many of them have also been Olympians. It should be mentioned that since the Iranian National TV Network does not broadcast any news or videos on previous or present Iranian Boxing, which is very unusual, the need of keeping this article is highlighted. There is no rational on why this article should not be kept. I disagree with Mohsen1248 since he has not given logical reasons for his claims which are his own point of view, and it seems that what he has mentioned could have personal, social, or biased opinionated motives or has resulted from a personal grudge towards the participants of the mentioned team or maybe lack of sufficient background knowledge on the mentioned team and Iranian Boxing history, as the mentioned team has contributed greatly to Iranian Boxing between 1955 and 1965, participating in many international tournaments, and also to future greater achievements. These could be mentioned in the article after expansion. Although it has been mentioned to keep this article, then it could also be merged with Iran_at_the_1958_Asian_Games depending on the administrators' decisions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Faertompakandam (talk • contribs) 04:28, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Merge into Iran_at_the_1958_Asian_Games I haven't seen valid reasons to keep this as a separate article, but merging it makes sense to me.Jakejr (talk) 04:26, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 06:41, 13 August 2014 (UTC)


 * Merge - It is notable, but I see no particular reason why this needs its own article. I agree with Jakejr that the text can be added to Iran_at_the_1958_Asian_Games. - Taketa (talk) 09:09, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Merge into Iran_at_the_1958_Asian_Games This seems more consistent to me and will improve the boxing section of that article. Papaursa (talk) 21:01, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.