Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Iranian plot to assassinate Donald Trump

Iranian plot to assassinate Donald Trump

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Was this article made in haste? I think it would be much more prudent to discuss this subject matter within the context of existing articles first before further muddying the waters. TNstingray (talk) 20:51, 16 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete, Yeah I was just about to do this. There's basically no information about it right now, it does not warrant an article. Not news. Personisinsterest (talk) 20:56, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * We should keep it because the secret service might use Iran as a scape goat for bad protection LuisYT-FB-TM-Insta-TickTokOffical (talk) 21:11, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment. I don't really see the need for this as a standalone article now because there isn't much information about it from RS, just mentions of it. If I had to pick a side, I would lean toward deletion. This can be mentioned in other articles as it is relevant.
 * In the future, if this becomes notable enough as a standalone topic, we can revisit it then. JMM12345 (talk) 21:15, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * We should keep it incase more information comes out and if any statements from the Iranian Government come out as well LuisYT-FB-TM-Insta-TickTokOffical (talk) 21:17, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * None of us can predict the future. If that happens, we can cross that bridge when we get to it. JMM12345 (talk) 21:18, 16 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Terrorism, Iran,  and United States of America. Shellwood (talk) 21:21, 16 July 2024 (UTC)


 * I object to this deletion as I think the user is biased to both the secret service and trump and is attempting to censor something LuisYT-FB-TM-Insta-TickTokOffical (talk) 21:32, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * See WP:FUTURE, WP:TOOSOON, and WP:DEADLINE. There is no rush to create these articles just to speculate on unconfirmed possibilities for the future. Also, please don't accuse people of random conspiracy theories. They're not helping anyone and are disruptive. TheWikiToby (talk) 21:45, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Speaking of bias, you literally created your account today to stir up non-encyclopedic discourse, including the repeated violation of WP:FORUM, one instance of which I have already reverted and another which I am leaving on this article's talk page for now as public record. TNstingray (talk) 21:45, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge to Background of Assassination attempt of Donald Trump. Clearly there isn't the content to support a standalone article at this point, so would be better merged with existing article on Trump assassination attempt. CNC (talk) 21:33, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I now see this is already referenced in the Background section, so can simply be Deleted CNC (talk) 21:36, 16 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Merge to Assassination of Qasem Soleimani. The retaliation by the Iranian government is planned in response to the Assassination of Qasem Soleimani ordered by Trump's National Security Council. It therefore targets not only Donald Trump, but also other former US officials . This is important info, but it does not seem to qualify for a separate page yet. My very best wishes (talk) 21:52, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep Although the article is currently poorly written, the references to significant coverage in reliable sources are strong. CNN also published a lengthy article about this topic. This AfD should run a full week, and we can see how coverage of this develops. Cullen328 (talk) 22:09, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge per MVBW, and the fact that we don't have any details anyway. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 22:16, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete, WP:NOTNEWS By the time this election is over, there will have been a whole lot of so-called plots directed at both candidates, maybe even on a daily basis sometimes.  — Maile  (talk) 22:26, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment There is literally nothing in WP:NOTNEWS that says this article is inappropriate. That policy language says The policy forbids original reporting by Wikipedia editors, routine news coverage of announcements, events, sports, or celebrities, Who's Who type coverage and celebrity gossip. Nothing else. None of that is present in this article. Cullen328 (talk) 07:47, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge it is too s, oon for a stand-alone article here. Other than the recent reporting that there are rumors, we have no information. I have no specific opinion on what the merge target should be yet; hopefully in the next few days there will be sufficient follow-on reporting to determine that. Walsh90210 (talk) 22:49, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep -- per Cullen328, this is essentially guaranteed to have enough information to merit a standalone article in the next few days (even a short one); and we can always merge it back to Assassination of Qasem Soleimani or some related article if for some reason that doesn't happen. The news on this just broke 4 hours ago, it's patently unhelpful to be pouncing on AfD's that quickly before this has even had time to marinate. WP:CONFUSESTUB applies; as does WP:ITSINTHENEWS (especially the cautionary part saying The NOTNEWS guideline is not intended to be overused to favor deletion. There are a variety of reasons an article may be written about a particular event, and this must be taken into consideration when a news event is sent to AfD.) ⇒   SWAT Jester   Shoot Blues, Tell VileRat! 23:56, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Well, that sounds reasonable. I am not opposed to "keep" as my second choice. My very best wishes (talk) 01:16, 17 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions.  WC  Quidditch   ☎   ✎  02:34, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep per Cullen328. There seems to be a lot of non-policy based arguments for deletion of articles based on their current state, regardless of their notability, which is really the only concern here. "Keep" arguments like the user is biased are exactly as meaningful as "delete" arguments like a whole lot of so-called plots directed at both candidates: zero impact. Full length stories on this assassination plot are currently found at all tier 1 news sources including The New York Times, AP AP, Reuters, CNN, and a "live updates" sub-site at NBC News. ☆ Bri (talk) 03:32, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Expand or merge per MVBW. It sounds like this is already mentioned in the background section of the Qasam article, so it could also just be Deleted. However, there is not enough prose to support a full article at this time. Kcmastrpc (talk) 11:47, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete unless there ends up being significantly more information released on this plot. Estreyeria (talk) 14:01, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge Not enough content to support an article yet. The details are fairly vague at this point, even with the above sources. Reywas92Talk 14:02, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete per CNC. Her Pegship (?) 17:01, 17 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Weak Merge. Unless there is evidence they actually tried to assassinate him, this is just an - albeit very delayed - reaction to Qasem Soleimani's murder, and in my opinion not notable on it's own. As noted by the NYTIMES article, Iran has been wanting to get revenge for a while.
 * In the very unlikely event this turned out to be related to Thomas Matthew Crooks' attack, then it should be merged with that article. If Iran actually does something, then it should be put into it's own article.
 * If none of that happens, most of this should be merged into Qasem Soleimani, and the details around the Secret Service's increased security should be added to the Trump Assassination article.
 * That said, I believe we should wait before making a decision, and allow more time for discussion and new evidence to arise. 174.61.187.77 (talk) 21:48, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete or Draftify as it seems a bit WP:TOOSOON - AquilaFasciata (talk &#124; contribs) 13:52, 18 July 2024 (UTC)