Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ireland–Zambia relations (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__ to Foreign relations of Ireland. Liz Read! Talk! 05:00, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Ireland–Zambia relations
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Let's try this again. It's been 14+ years since the first AFD, consensus on what constitutes WP:SIGCOV can change, and many of the original participants have retired or been banned. As I said in my original nomination: "Topic fails general notability requirements, specifically there does not appear to be significant coverage of these countries' relations in sources which reliable, independent, and secondary. None are cited in article, and I couldn't locate in any myself." Yes there are now a few links to newspaper articles, but most are dead, and those that aren't are hardly coverage of these countries relations, in my opinion. Yilloslime (talk) 04:48, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bilateral relations, Africa,  and Ireland.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 08:36, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete I don't see notable relations like significant trade or migration or state visits. Many countries give aid to Zambia, so the few million Ireland gives is rather routine. LibStar (talk) 09:31, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Merge/redirect to Foreign relations of Ireland. As an ATD. Otherwise, as noted in the nom, there seems to be insufficient notability/coverage to warrant a standalone article. And, while I have read the earlier AfD and understand the "keep" arguments, they all seem to be based entirely on ROTM coverage of aid packages. Which don't discuss the topic (diplomatic relations between the two countries) in any material depth. That the article seems to stand almost ENTIRELY as a list of the loosely related news sources, found in the previous BEFORE but not associated with the text in ANY WAY, suggests (to me at least) that a standalone article isn't warranted. Guliolopez (talk) 10:29, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Foreign relations of Ireland. Having read the previous discussion, like Guliolopez said; I don't see anything discussing the diplomatic relations between the countries, only ones about the aid packages. There doesn't seem to be much to merge either, so just going for a redirect, though, if something does come up, I'm happy to add on to the redirect target. NotAGenious (talk) 17:14, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Just a note to say that as the nominator, I could get behind a redirect as an alternative to straight up deletion. Yilloslime (talk) 21:02, 23 October 2023 (UTC)


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