Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Irina D. França


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The result was delete. -- RoySmith (talk) 11:42, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

Irina D. França

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No verifiable significant coverage in RS, either in the given references or via Google. — swpb T 12:59, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - Having previously done a a clean up of the article and search for further sources, I'm afraid I have to concur. Karst (talk) 13:12, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: For an analysis of the sources provided by Montanabw. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:09, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep: Doing a search without the middle initial, I found a number of sources, but they are all in Portuguese, so we may need to take a bit of time and run them through translation or get someone from a wikiproject to help.  But my findings are: an interview(?), this, looks like a bio, might be a society page, this, and a few other pages that are, at the moment, down (like this, might be worth looking at the wayback links.   Montanabw (talk) 15:14, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Stop trying to make others do your work for you. If you want any of that link-dump to count for anything, the burden is on you to prove it. — swpb T 17:48, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Again with the personal attacks. Let's avoid personalizing the debate and focus on content. I did post a message at the Africa and Angola Wikiprojects.  We can wait and see if someone turns up from there who has knowledge in the subject area; I tread with caution with a declaration of "not notable" on people from the third world who work in a language I do not speak.  Also, there exists a rebuttable presumption of notability, the way I read the guidelines, hence the AfD nominator carries the burden.   Montanabw (talk) 05:21, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Just as a data point, I found the links helpful to my analysis; it saved me some work rather than adding to it. Innisfree987 (talk) 16:01, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete a non-notable singer.John Pack Lambert (talk) 07:47, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:09, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete Please do ping me if the sourcing situation changes but as things stand, I think we should not keep an entry on a living person on the hope that someday someone will identify and translate enough sourcing to make the entry balanced and reliable. I'm regretful about this, I certainly love to see well-sourced entries on underrepresented topics like this but if the entry's unreliable, then it's no help to the encyclopedia. And while my Portuguese is limited, what I gather from the sources we have does not suggest they'd be enough even if someone did translate them. (Not that anyone asked me, but arguably the effort involved in translation might be better spent sourcing one of the many, many indisputably wiki-notable subjects of systemic bias not currently represented on WP. Or not, per personal preference--I just find translating pretty taxing and I would not want to do very much of it on an entry that might get deleted in the end anyway!) Innisfree987 (talk) 21:09, 7 September 2016 (UTC)


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