Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Irish Republicanism in Northern Ireland


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. No arguments for deletion aside from the nominator. The issue of merging can be discussed on the article's talk page. (non-admin closure) Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:14, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Irish Republicanism in Northern Ireland

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I've nominated this article for deletion for several reasons:
 * Poor prose especially in its lede and throughout the article
 * Entirely unsourced with no references
 * Makes far too many assumptions without given any sources at all to back them up and the only source that was given was a dead link to a site that doesn't exist
 * What this page details is essentially only one facet of Irish Republicanism in Northern Ireland and thats the IRA and their political party Sinn Fein which are already well documented and sourced in their own articles - thus it lacks scope and range as it completely ignores other strands of republicanism in Northern Ireland that don't adhere to Sinn Fein/IRA
 * It completely leaves out dissident republicanism and only mentioned Republican Sinn Fein once in passing sentence.
 * The article seems to white-wash over IRA atrocities and the negative impacts of Irish republicanism in Northern Ireland
 * The article adds nothing new that people can't already find in other better articles
 * No effort appears to have been made to improve it

Any objects etc.? Mabuska (talk) 12:06, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. Poor prose isn't a reason - why don't you simply fix it.  Unsourced because you removed a reference - why don't you simply look for another such as here from archive.org or alternaively here.  Assumptions should be flagged with WP:OR.  Dealing with only one facet calls for expansion of the article - calling for deletion smacks of WP:IDONTLIKEIT. Etc, etc.  The bottom line is: Does this topic merit an article?  Is the topic noteworthy?  The reasons you have given for deletion are not valid reasons.  --HighKing (talk) 12:29, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I removed a dead link inline reference which was used for one statement not the entire article. The article qualifies for deletion on terms of virtually being a content fork. As i am not an expert in republicanism i am not going to major expand the article and seeing as very little effort has been made since this article was created to verifiably source it and even improve it - the article will no doubt remain the same. Mabuska (talk) 14:17, 4 June 2010 (UTC) I can see me having to rewrite the whole article lol. Mabuska (talk) 14:55, 4 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep. The subject is notable, so does not justify deletion. The article can be improved and sourced; but as HighKing says lack of refs and poor writing are not valid reasons for nominating an article for deletion.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:34, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep - Poor writing and lack of refs calls for rewriting, not deletion, especially for a notable topic like this. DitzyNizzy (aka Jess) &#124; (talk to me) &#124; (What I've done)  15:29, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep while the nominator makes some valid points, issues such as poor prose, POV etc are best addressed within the article by rewriting and expanding it. Valenciano (talk) 21:52, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. None of the points gives a single valid reason for deletion. The majority of the issues raised by the nominator, however, shows the need of a full revision of the article. --Darius (talk) 23:28, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Northern Ireland-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 01:15, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 01:16, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. This is a clear WP:SOFIXIT. Suggest the quickest way to fix this article would be to copy over the relevant information from History of Northern Ireland and The Troubles, but of which seem to have a lot more care and attention paid to them. Chris Neville-Smith (talk) 09:03, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment - Fair enough, i accept and abide by the clear concensus shown here. Mabuska (talk) 10:13, 5 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Clean up and Merge into Irish Republicanism: Republicanism in NI is not a separate topic from republicanism in Ireland as a whole. Scolaire (talk) 17:47, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment - i agree with that as some events in republicanism have effects on both sides of the border. If merged, use a redirect for the title to Irish Republicanism? Mabuska (talk) 19:46, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Per Merging, merging "should always leave a redirect". Scolaire (talk) 07:26, 7 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Merge into Irish republicanism Mooretwin (talk) 23:02, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep - Article is poorly written, yes, but is too notable for deletion. -- Footyfanatic3000 ( talk  · &#32;  contribs )  23:45, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.