Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Irish Staffordshire Bull Terrier


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   merge to  American Pit Bull Terrier.  DGG ( talk ) 00:28, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Irish Staffordshire Bull Terrier

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None of the linked websites listed in this article mention this breed. Article is completely unsourced. Searches of AKC and UKC breed listings turn up nothing. Only mentions I can find in a google search are personal and sales sites. Does not appear to be a recognized breed based on this evidence. Changing to redirect/merge per discussion below between Silver seren and me. keɪɑtɪk flʌfi (talk) 20:13, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment: user:Silver seren has now stubbed the article and provided sources stating that the breed is simply an alternate name for pit bull terriers, used by owners to avoid laws that ban pit bulls. Given that new information...
 * Redirect to Pit bull American Pit Bull Terrier first link wasn't specific breed, Silver had the right one in his vote . "Irish Staffordshire Bull Terrier" is an alternate name for "Pit bull"; it may merit a mention in the main article that alternate names are being used to avoid "bully breed" laws, but the alternate name doesn't merit its own article. keɪɑtɪk flʌfi (talk) 22:39, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, and I should point out that, as the nominator of this AfD, you're supposed to put your argument for Deletion/Merge/Redirect/ect. in the nomination part, and not also vote. Because of that, i've struck through the Redirect word, so the closing admin doesn't get confused. Silver  seren C 00:19, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
 * D'oh. Struck out old nom up top, added my new !vote there. Sorry for the mess, closing admin! keɪɑtɪk flʌfi (talk) 00:27, 14 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Merge to American Pit Bull Terrier Considering that the specific name itself is one of the "species" on the banned list for the Dangerous Dogs Act in Britain (of which there are only four), I think the information should be kept somewhere. It should be put in its own section in the American Pit Bull Terrier article. Silver  seren C 23:06, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Is it ok to ask questions of other voters? I'm not a regular AFD-er, so if this is considered rude please forgive! Silver, I think either I'm not understanding what you mean or you may have misread the sources - I can't find anything in the sources that says that "Irish Staffordshire Bull Terrier" is on the list of the four banned breeds, only that "American pit bull terrier" is. Or did you mean just that the APBT article should have a section on its being banned in the UK? keɪɑtɪk flʌfi (talk) 23:36, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
 * You're allowed to ask questions, no worries. :) And I think I was wrong in what I stated before. Looking at the sources again, "pit bull terriers" in general are the species listed on the Act. In light of this, i've changed my vote to just merge. And I meant that I think there should be a section in the APBT article that discusses the separate name in the UK that was used in order to bypass the Dangerous Dogs Act and how these dogs were then used in dog fighting venues. Silver  seren C 23:40, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
 * That sounds eminently reasonable to me. It's certainly noteworthy that people are trying to get around the Act by renaming. keɪɑtɪk flʌfi (talk) 23:50, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
 * It could probably be put as a subsection under the Law section, with very little needing to be changed from the prose it has now. Silver  seren C 00:12, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:02, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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