Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Irish liberation army


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The result was Speedily deleted by Nyttend as A7. --Patar knight - chat/contributions 06:02, 23 May 2009 (UTC) (NAC)

Irish liberation army

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Smells like a hoax. I can find no independent verification. Completely unsourced but editor claims on the talk page to have "obtained a statement" from the group that verifies its existence. Wperdue (talk) 20:42, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

I have obtained a statement from the group which verifies its existance as i have said parts of it are included in the article itself. Trust me I have done my research locally and the group does exist. PALESTINE1234 —Preceding unsigned comment added by PALESTINE1234 (talk • contribs) 20:48, 22 May 2009 (UTC)  — PALESTINE1234 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Speedy delete A7 (group). Sounds like a bunch of anarchists trying to compensate, but that's just my take.  Assertion is that there is a statement, so I'm inclined to not say hoax, but there seems to be an utter notability failure.  No prejudice to recreation if they really are notable. -- Dennis The Tiger   (Rawr and stuff) 20:50, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

I would like to apologise for any inconvenience caused by the article. But I can assure you the group exists, I have researched locally and have many confirmations of the groups existance. Apologies. PALESTINE1234 —Preceding unsigned comment added by PALESTINE1234 (talk • contribs) 20:54, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Your assurances have absolutely no value here.Bali ultimate (talk) 21:25, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

I understand your concerns of false imformation but this is not a hoax. The statement i was personally given was legitimate. Again I would like to apologise for any inconvenience.--PALESTINE1234 (talk) 21:03, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * G3 Hoax depsite what Palestine says, no sources exist. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 21:13, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete if one were to edit the one-close to accurate statement in the article, "very little is known about the ILA" to the perfectly accurate "nothing is known about the ILA" we would have the one true fact about this mess. Clear delete and should have been speedy.Bali ultimate (talk) 21:24, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment I would have used a CSD tag but, unfortunately, it was a "blatantly obvious" case. It did require some searching on my part. Sorry. Wperdue (talk) 21:29, 22 May 2009 (UTC)wperdue

the ILA exists, this is a fact. I have sources, i have the statement, I have locally researched the group and i can promise again, it does exist.--PALESTINE1234 (talk) 21:37, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Again I do understand your fears, but as i have repeatedly said this group does exist, I am sure!!!--PALESTINE1234 (talk) 21:39, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

The ILA is a new group, it is very secretive, it was established in belfast in 2006, i researched it locally in NI and have had numourous human sources confirm the groups existance. --PALESTINE1234 (talk) 21:45, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Dude, your word of mouth is worthless. Human sources are worthless. We need print and web sources. And clearly you don't have those. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 21:50, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete as unsourced soapbox. Hairhorn (talk) 22:04, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Ill write out the statement here if you want--PALESTINE1234 (talk) 22:15, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * What part of "your word of mouth is useless" did you not understand? Oh yeah, the "useless" part. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 22:25, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

im tired of writing the same stuff over and over again, the ILA exists FACT, your just going around in circles, THEY EXIST I KNOW  and dont bother askin how --86.142.130.30 (PALEASTINE1234) 22:33, 22 May 2009 (UTC) — 86.142.130.30 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * That's the point, we need to ask how. That's how Wikipedia works. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 22:37, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Did i or did i not just say dont ask how?--86.142.130.30 (PALESTINE1234) 22:55, 22 May 2009 (UTC) Ive already told you, people from all over NI have told me the ILA are real and I have a statement from them, parts of which are in the article !--86.142.130.30 (PALESTINE1234) 22:58, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * How do you know they exist?" -- Dennis The Tiger  (Rawr and stuff) 01:21, 23 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete Non-notable even if they exist. Edward321 (talk) 23:13, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete unless someone can prove they exist in a written source from a verifiable third party - like a local newspaper or the RTE or BBC for example. Blue Square Thing (talk) 23:30, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions.  —Nick-D (talk) 23:34, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:N and WP:V and appears likely to be a hoax. Nick-D (talk) 23:34, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete The actual name of the group is "Irish Republican Liberation Army" and its political wing is called the "Continuity Liberation Movement", but the notice of their founding in 2006 is the last that has been heard of them. Chuck Hamilton (talk) 01:11, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Checked and learned there's a Wikipedia article for the group I mentioned, with references. One using just "Irish Liberation Army" I've never heard of; the author may be confused about the name, but in any case there's a separate existing article that is sourced. Chuck Hamilton (talk) 01:55, 23 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment - Google search turns up nary anything notable. There was some formation of an ILA in 1972, but they changed their name to the Irish National Republican Army. Many counts recap a fiction book and/or what appears to be a stage play based on said book. -- Dennis The Tiger   (Rawr and stuff) 01:19, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Speedy deleted under A7 for reasons given by Dennis The Tiger. Nyttend (talk) 02:05, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.