Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Is it Lilly or Lily for Lillian


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete.  Phantom Steve / talk &#124; contribs \ 23:41, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Is it Lilly or Lily for Lillian

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This page is completely original research. I don't believe there is a speedy deletion criteria that fits it. Ryan Vesey (talk) 01:39, 12 July 2011 (UTC)


 * delete and I think that No assertion of importance CSD would apply here. HominidMachinae (talk) 06:22, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I thought of that, but no assertion of importance of what? There isn't a category for no assertion of importance for an idea.  I think there should be a specific category for pages like this. Ryan Vesey (talk) 08:50, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
 * A lot of people feel "absolute nonsense" should be a CSD criterion. Only trouble is the fact that they prefer CSD criteria to be objective and not take judgement (IE "no assertion" is objective, if it has the words "is important because" or "is notable for" then it doesn't apply).  In this case they do not assert a coherent subject for the article, which is a fortiori proof that there is no importance asserted. HominidMachinae (talk) 08:55, 12 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Merge any relevant content with Lily (name), then delete this article. It's Malpass93! (drop me a ___) 11:51, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
 * definate delete The title looks like the name of an essay and the article reads like one, wikipedia isn't an essay sharing site, therefore thisarticle fails the fact that it isn't encyclopedic content. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Seasider91 (talk • contribs) 12:50, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete as it's WP:OR and it also appears to have been copied-n-pasted from various other pages like this and this.  Nik the  stoned  13:43, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete as an original essay — and, as pointed out above, maybe not that original. Carrite (talk) 15:11, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

I created the article after doing a google search for "is it lilly or lily for lillian". This presented me a long list of results of which none could give me exactly what I wanted. There were several that provided good information, but none seamed inclusive. (Is that the right word?)

I put together information I found on several sites and tried to present as much information on the subject as I could.

In the case of originality, I'm not sure anyone could come up with a truly original article on this subject. The information on this subject has been fully researched over the years and passed around almost verbatim online and in print.

As for the formatting of the article, if you don't like it, fix (edit) it.

This being the fact, deleting the article maybe be justified. But, what I would like to see, is someone with more experience at this then I am, edit the damn thing and make it more relevant.

Maybe there should be a place just for this type of answer to this type of question — "Is it this or that for this name".

My first name is Gilbert and I just hate it when some people abbreviate my name with Gill instead of Gil. I find no answer to the question, "Is it Gil or Gill for Gilbert?" on the internet.

I suspect there are a lot of short names that people would have a question about.

The creative one (talk) 15:38, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Preceding comment copied from the talk page - frankie (talk) 16:05, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
 * I believe the relevant article on this subject is "Hypocorism". Wikipedia has an article on everything. If you're wondering about something you should always ask at the Reference desk. There are many smart people there that can provide you with answers to your exact questions. -- &oelig; &trade; 17:06, 16 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete. Unencyclopedic essay. And no sense in editing it as Lily (name) already exists. -- &oelig; &trade; 17:02, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, there is the speedy that I missed. A10, an article that duplicates an existing article.  Can we close this as a speedy delete now? Ryan Vesey  contribs  22:07, 16 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete unsourced;  can you speedy it because notability is not established?Curb Chain (talk) 11:00, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.