Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Isaak Hayik


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus.  —&#8288;Scotty Wong &#8288;— 07:51, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

Isaak Hayik

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Footballer who fails GNG and NFOOTY. A clear case of WP:ONEEVENT. BlameRuiner (talk) 21:24, 11 November 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: 5 keeps claiming gng is met, four delete / merges on the grounds that whilst he has clearly received widespread coverage internationally for being the oldest player the is a case of WP:ONEEVENT. Need a clearer consensus, would be useful to provide sources for the claim that he has also received coverage for his "notable stage business". Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Fenix down (talk) 23:39, 18 November 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 04:24, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
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 * Keep - meets GNG with sources provided. Paul Vaurie (talk) 00:52, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge to F.C. Ironi Or Yehuda - subject notable enough to be included in that article but does not deserve seperate article - WP:ONEEVENT. Paul Vaurie (talk) 22:33, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge to his club. The sources provided very clearly fails WP:ONEEVENT in my opinion, which is the case for most Guinness World Record breakers throughout the world. The article also falsely claims him to be a professional player; the club sits on a fairly low level. It's a possible search term though, hence the merge. Geschichte (talk) 08:12, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 11:10, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep.Has significant coverage, not just for football but also his notable stage business. Free1Soul (talk) 16:25, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep passes GNG.--Ortizesp (talk) 19:22, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep passes WP:GNG.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 22:24, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep - meets GNG with sources provided. Inf-in MD (talk) 01:52, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
 * This account has been blocked as a sock of NoCal100. JoelleJay (talk) 22:11, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:ONEEVENT and WP:NOTNEWS. GiantSnowman 13:00, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:GNG. ArsenalGhanaPartey (talk) 16:06, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:BLP1E (or is it BIO1E). This isn't an article about a person, it is an article about a publicity stunt by the folks at Guinness. User:力 (powera,  π,  ν ) 02:23, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
 *  Delete . There is a reason we have BLP1E; there is nothing to suggest coverage will extend beyond this one promotional event. JoelleJay (talk) 19:15, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Not sure, per Gidonb's sources, which maybe show SIGCOV but are hard to assess for notability purposes since they're in Hebrew newspaper archives. If kept, the article should be refocused on his writing career. JoelleJay (talk) 22:17, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Fenix down (talk) 08:22, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
 *  Comment Isreal National News calls his stage firm "Hayik Bamot, a veteran stage props firm that is one of the best known names in the field" and is one of the leading firms in its field in Isreal.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 11:53, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Merge to F.C. Ironi Or Yehuda - This is a clear case of WP:ONEEVENT.--Aervanath (talk) 20:23, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. As a notable Israeli businessman, WP:BLP1E and WP:NOTNEWS are extremely irrelevant to this entry. Still, it takes more for an article to be kept. Sufficient content is also needed to fence off a merge. Hayik passes this hurdle as well, although this one is a somewhat closer call. It is sad that the delete supporters chose concentrate on the gimmick, instead of on the essence. Inclusion in the Guiness Book of Records is nice but there is so much more to Hayik's biography and coverage than WP:ONEEVENT. Frankly, all opinions focusing on 1E should be discounted for a lack of depth and research. gidonb (talk) 01:04, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
 * How does being an Israeli businessperson exempt someone from BLP1E concerns? What continued coverage are you basing this on? JoelleJay (talk) 05:14, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Also passes WP:NCREATIVE. Coverage is significant and continuous since 1970 at least, i.e. spanning more than 50 years. Delete and merge opinions in this discussion should not be considered for the obvious weakness of their research. I expanded the article a bit. With 50+ years in-depth coverage, more could be written about this author, illustrator, and businessman who can also catch a ball. gidonb (talk) 16:06, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Not knowing Hebrew, I have to use Google to translate the text from the one article you link, but the output suffers from a lot of formatting issues and so looks like gibberish. Can you clarify what the content is? And you assert "coverage is significant and continuous" but only provide one supporting reference that is of undetermined significance, so your smear against other !voters is totally unjustified. JoelleJay (talk) 18:27, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
 * It's a biography of the author and a discussion of his books. If you click on this link, sources 3, 8, 9, 15, 16, and 18 are about our Isaac Hayik. Some ads as well (not included in my extraction) and 4 was excluded as a maybe. There are more references of all times in the hewiki article. I'm not going to get into who smears who with you. It's not my thing. gidonb (talk) 18:49, 10 December 2021 (UTC)


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