Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Isabel Dato, 2nd Duchess of Dato


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Duke of Dato. Redirecting the other two as well. Tone 15:47, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Isabel Dato, 2nd Duchess of Dato

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This article is merely a genealogical entry, yet Wikipedia is not a genealogical database. Being related to a prime minister is not grounds nor inclusion, and neither is having held a noble title. The subject is obscure; she does not appear in reliable sources other than genealogy books, and that does not constitute significant coverage. Surtsicna (talk) 08:50, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Surtsicna (talk) 08:50, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Spain-related deletion discussions. Surtsicna (talk) 08:50, 26 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Also delete her mother, María de Barrenechea, 1st Duchess of Dato, and sister, María del Carmen Dato, 3rd Duchess of Dato. Clarityfiend (talk) 09:50, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I agree that those articles should be deleted as well. They too are merely genealogical entries. Surtsicna (talk) 16:14, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I agree to delete this one and her sister! However, I opposed to delete her mother because she was Spouse of the PM also. Look notable to me! VocalIndia (talk) 10:12, 27 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Question Was she a female duke or not? According to the article, she was inherited the dukedom Duke of Dato, is it not a legitimate noble position ? I see that dukedom is not deposed one at that time. Just search with her alternative name “ Doña Isabel Dato y Barrenechea” have a bit more info. Perhaps someone with an interest in Spanish history can help. VocalIndia (talk) 08:08, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Probably. But this dukedom was created in 1921. Are there any estates, revenues, castles, etc. attached, or is this just an empty title? Clarityfiend (talk) 09:37, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
 * The title was created less than two weeks after, and in response to, the assassination of the prime minister. That didn't leave much time to attach anything substantial to it. Clarityfiend (talk) 09:40, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Aww I see! Thanks VocalIndia (talk) 10:12, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, she (and her mother and sister) were duchesses in their own right. However, there don't seem to be any refs to them outside of things like Hidalguia and Burke's. Clearly there should be a page for the duchy, so perhaps they can be merged to Duke of Dato. Furius (talk) 14:42, 28 April 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.