Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ishikawa no Iratsume


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The result was redirect to List of Man'yōshū poets. Randykitty (talk) 15:53, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

Ishikawa no Iratsume

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I am not familiar with the topic, but this does not seem notable enough for an article Medarduss (talk) 09:33, 8 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep Topic is clearly notable. This/These woman/women authored at least ten of the poems in the most famous Japanese poetry anthology. The current stub could use some work (ironically, the main factor that kept me from finishing it personally was very likely disruptive hounding to which I was subjected because I didn't approve of auto-voting "keep" in AFDs within topic areas with which the auto-voters were unfamiliar), but the source already cited is of unquestionable reliability contains reasonably in-depth coverage. Add to this the dozens/hundreds of pages of commentary that have almost certainly been devoted to each of the ten poems over the last 800 years or so, as (per, IIRC, the late Prof. Keene's unsurpassed Seeds in the Heart) is true of all Man'yōshū poems, and I would be very surprised if anyone would support the assertion that this topic is not notable. (FTR, these poems do not have titles, so the logical solution is to discuss them in articles named for the poets, even if we don't have enough historical information for a true biographical article. If anyone feels my interpretation runs afoul of WP:NOTINHERITED, then my talk page may be a better place to hash that out than a bunch of random AFDs. But you might also want to ask ... I forget his name, but 8 or 9 years ago I attempted to AFD an article on a non-entity briefly referred to in the bible, and was argued down by someone saying that every word of the Christian bible has been combed over by countless scholars, and therefore even the minorest of biblical characters are presumed notable.) Hijiri 88 ( 聖やや ) 09:59, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Poetry and Japan. Shellwood (talk) 14:34, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of Man'yōshū poets from which the content seems to have been copied. LizardJr8 (talk) 18:44, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of Man'yōshū poets as above, which covers the matter sufficiently for now. The obvious problem with having this as an article is that it is not an article at all, but a set index or disambiguation page for a whole lot of female poets with the same name. Chiswick Chap (talk) 19:36, 8 February 2023 (UTC)


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